tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29159210990259028382024-02-07T06:22:49.991-06:00Crafting The SchismA Spiritual Universalist Feminist Finds God Beyond Catholic ChurchianitySMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06654437344212232425noreply@blogger.comBlogger205125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2915921099025902838.post-23606983969668661642011-10-28T12:58:00.000-05:002011-10-28T12:58:51.895-05:00Ritual Whiplash...and Spiritual Concussion<span style="background-color: white; color: black;">If you follow advertising at all you know that some campaigns work and some do not. When the Pepsi logo changed to its current version, test groups showed negative reaction. The same with several Tropicana campaigns. And more recently when Netflix announced it was splitting into two services, they lost over 500,000 customers in the weeks following (and their 3Q earnings took a huge hit) before they recanted and apologized for the very thought of the idea. Their <em>mea culpa</em> came too late, though.</span><br />
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<span style="color: black;">The changes to the mass ritual will no doubt result in some interesting reactions. The headline should be changed to: <strong><em>Mindless Repetitious Prayer by Rote Changes</em></strong>...oh, the irony.</span><br />
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<span style="color: black;">Recently, the Pope refused to pray with the heads of other faiths. Nothing says agenda-laden elitism like snubbing your frenemies. Oh, except the following change (particularly this one) to the mass: The line that said Jesus died on the cross <strong>“for you and for all so that sins may be forgiven”</strong> will change to <strong>“for you and for many for the forgiveness of sins.”</strong></span><br />
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<span style="color: black;">So, Jesus did not die for all? <em>Really?</em> Will they also change the part of the mass when the priest regards the Eucharist and says "He who takes away the sins of the world?"....or will it be changed to "He who takes away the sins of many."? This change helps to polarize, divide, and judge. It contradicts the following scriptural citations, which I find to be spiritually comforting. But I guess fear, not comfort, is what the Church is best at.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #990000;">1 John 4:14 - And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Savior <strong>of the world.</strong></span><br />
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<span style="color: #990000;">Rom 5:18 - Therefore as by the offense of one judgment (because of Adam) came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one (because of Jesus) the free gift came <strong>upon all men</strong> unto justification of life.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #990000;">1 Timothy 2:1-4 - I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior; <strong>Who will have all men to be saved</strong>, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #990000;">1 John 2:1-2 - My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, <strong>but also for the sins of the whole world</strong>.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #990000;">1Timothy 4:10 - For therefore we both labor and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is <strong>the Savior of all men</strong>, <em>especially of those that believe.</em> </span><br />
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<strong><span style="color: black;">1) God sent his Word to be the savior of the whole world. </span></strong><br />
<strong><span style="color: black;">2) In the same manner that judgment came upon all men due to one man Adam, so also the free gift came upon the same lot, all men. </span></strong><br />
<strong><span style="color: black;">3) God desires all men to be saved. </span></strong><br />
<strong><span style="color: black;">4) He sent his word to be a propitiation for the sins of the whole world, not just our own sins, and </span></strong><br />
<strong><span style="color: black;">5) Jesus is the savior of all men, especially (ie not exclusively, but especially) those that believe.</span></strong><br />
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<span style="color: black;">And the last sentence of the article, which tries to calm the fervor over the changes, is a quote by a reverend who tries to redirect what people should be concerned about in a Hey, look what's that over there? method. Smooth.</span><span style="color: black;">So, while the Vatican Boys' Club decides to change things up, they tilt their hand as white-knuckling harder that elitism which they are desperate to sell to their tithers. The difference is that now it is actually said out loud. During mass. </span><br />
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<span style="color: black;">I have the feeling that this might ALSO be an offensive play toward the growing number of believers like myself - Christian who believe that the all-encompassing, unspoiled-brat-like love of Christ WILL save everyone in the end and that the death of Christ was not to save a mere "many". That would mean the crucifixion was pretty much a failure. And this is the shortfall that the Catholic church will be reminding you of every week.</span> <br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #134f5c;">By Michelle Boorstein, Published: October 27, 2011 - </span><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/ritual-whiplash-ahead-catholics-mass-liturgy-changing/2011/10/25/gIQAzcNRNM_print.html"><span style="background-color: white; color: #134f5c;">Source Link</span></a><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #134f5c;">English-speaking Catholics are bracing for the biggest changes to their Mass since the 1960s, a shift some leaders warn could cause “ritual whiplash.”</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #134f5c;">The overhaul, which will become mandatory Nov. 27, is aimed at unifying the more than 1 billion Catholics worldwide with a translation that is as close as possible to the original Latin version. It allows for less independence and diversity of interpretation in a church that in recent decades has tried to retain more control over how Catholicism is defined.</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #134f5c;">Recent popes have emphasized orthodoxy and hierarchy, particularly in the West, where religious identity is increasingly fluid. Catholic hospitals and schools have been required to more clearly espouse church teachings, and Pope Benedict XVI has stressed the sole truth of Catholicism over other faiths, even declining this month to pray with Hindus, Jews and others at an interreligious event.</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #134f5c;">The new translation changes the majority of sentences in the Mass. The prayers and call-and-response dialogue between the priest and the congregation are different, transforming the dialogue that Catholics under 40 have used in church their entire lives. Some leaders warn that the shift could cause “ritual whiplash” among those accustomed to a worship script so familiar that most recite it from memory.</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #134f5c;">Reaction to the changes has been intense, in some ways fueling a Catholic culture war that began when the Second Vatican Council in the 1960s imposed far more sweeping changes designed to open up and modernize the church. Some traditionalists say the new translation of the ritual is richer and — because it’s less conversational — more mysterious and spiritual.</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #134f5c;">“At first I thought it was an affront, the Vatican coming down on us. But after thinking about it, I see it as something that will bring us all back toward the center,” said Emily Strand, 35, a former campus minister at the University of Dayton who has attended Mass regularly throughout her life. “Vatican II was an excuse for people to do whatever they wanted with the liturgy.”</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #134f5c;">But more modern Catholics, and some who are already disaffected, say the new language is an awkward imposition that will distance people from the church. The translation “wouldn’t affect me going [to church] or not,’’ said Vilma Linares, who was walking near St. Matthew’s Cathedral earlier this week with a friend at lunchtime. “But the less conversational the Mass, the more they will alienate people.” </span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #134f5c;">Erie, Pa., bishop Donald Trautman says that such words as “consubstantial” and “chalice” and a Jesus “born ineffably of the inviolate Virgin” won’t help Catholics get closer to God.</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #134f5c;">“We have to keep in mind these are prayer texts being used by priests at a Mass,” he said. “People should be able to understand them when they are heard.”</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #134f5c;">Others, including clergy, have protested that the new translation replaces ones approved by the U.S. bishops.</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #134f5c;">Perhaps the most basic change will be when the priest says: “The Lord be with you.” The congregation will no longer say “And also with you.” The new response is “And with your spirit.”</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #134f5c;">Some changes are more controversial. The line that said Jesus died on the cross “for you and for all so that sins may be forgiven” will change to “for you and for many for the forgiveness of sins.”</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #134f5c;">Other changes emphasize the difference between common English and Latin: “When supper was ended, He took the cup” becomes: “In a similar way, when supper was ended, He took this precious chalice in His holy and venerable hands.”</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #134f5c;">A poll of Catholics done early this summer by the Center for Applied Research in the Apostolate showed that 77 percent of respondents were unaware of a forthcoming new translation. Catholic dioceses and schools began preparations a few months ago, running workshops and podcasts and updating Web sites to lay out what’s happening and why.</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #134f5c;">Millions of books are being replaced; each parish must buy its own. (What becomes of the old books? The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops recommends burying them on church grounds or in a parish cemetery.) While parishes wait for the new ones, laminated cards will be put in the pews as a guide for worshipers.</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #134f5c;">Still, church officials say they expect serious confusion when those Catholics who aren’t connected with Catholic institutions and attend church only on big holidays, show up for Christmas. The Rev. Michael Wilson of Our Lady Star of the Sea in Solomons, Md., said he will offer this advice next month to his congregants: “Okay, folks: Everyone take a deep breath.”</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #134f5c;">The new translation has been in the works since a decade ago, when Pope John Paul II called for a full replacement of the one that came out of the 1960s Second Vatican Council. The thinking that came out of Vatican II was that the Mass script should be contemporary and paraphrased, that people should pray the way they speak in regular life.</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #134f5c;">As a result, pivotal changes were made. Mass was no longer said in Latin, and priests began facing the congregation (instead of standing with their backs to the crowd) and preaching more about the Bible rather than only on church doctrine.</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #134f5c;">Traditionalists worried that having different translations around the world opened the door to confusion. The past decade has seen much debate in the church about the new translation, with the Vatican rejecting less-literal translations that some saw as more poetic and contemporary.</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #134f5c;">When asked this week about the issue, several priests repeated an inside joke: What’s the difference between a liturgist and a terrorist? You can negotiate with a terrorist.</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #134f5c;">Catholics who speak other languages are on a later schedule and won’t see any changes immediately. There is no timeline yet for Spanish-speaking Americans. But the English version is perhaps the most important to the Vatican, because booming areas in Asia, including China, use it, not the Latin one, as the basis of their translations.</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #134f5c;">Monsignor Andrew Wadsworth, executive director of the commission in charge of English translations of liturgy, said the reforms will promote unity. “The way we worship is what we believe,” he said. “If you want to have unity of belief, texts used in worship need to be the same.”</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #134f5c;">Several priests in the region said the controversy was being overblown.</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #134f5c;">“There are other things more important to focus on,” said the Rev. Gerry Creedon of Holy Family in Dale City, “like drone bombings.”</span>SMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06654437344212232425noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2915921099025902838.post-53958078124638013532011-10-21T14:29:00.000-05:002011-10-21T14:29:17.517-05:00"Insurrection" by Peter RollinsOk, the following description and reviews are taken directly from Amazon.com's listing for this book, but I'm pretty stoked to get my hands on a copy of Peter Rollins' book Insurrection - <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Insurrection-Believe-Human-Doubt-Divine/dp/1451609000/ref=lh_ni_t">found here on Amazon</a>.<br />
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In this incendiary new work, the controversial author and speaker Peter Rollins proclaims that the Christian faith is not primarily concerned with questions regarding life after death but with the possibility of life before death.<br />
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In order to unearth this truth, Rollins prescribes a radical and wholesale critique of contemporary Christianity that he calls pyro-theology. It is only as we submit our spiritual practices, religious rituals, and dogmatic affirmations to the flames of fearless interrogation that we come into contact with the reality that Christianity is in the business of transforming our world rather than offering a way of interpreting or escaping it. Belief in the Resurrection means but one thing: Participation in an Insurrection.<br />
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<em><strong>"What does it mean when the Son of God cries out, 'My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?' Brilliantly, candidly, and faithfully, Rollins wrestles here with that question. You may not agree with his answers and conclusions, but you owe it to yourself and to the church at large to read what he says.</strong></em><br />
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<em> </em>—Phyllis Tickle, author, The Great Emergence<br />
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<em><strong>"Peter Rollins is the Anti-Christ for all fake Christians."</strong></em><br />
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--Creston Davis, Professor, Rollins College, Department of Philosophy and Religion <br />
<em><strong>"What Pete does in this book is take you to the edge of a cliff where you can see how high you are and how far you would fall if you lost your footing. And just when most writers would kindly pull you back from edge, he pushes you off, and you find yourself without any solid footing, disoriented, and in a bit of a panic…until you realize that your fall is in fact, a form of flying. And it's thrilling."</strong></em><br />
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--Rob Bell, author of Love Wins and Velvet Elvis<br />
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<em><strong>"While others labor to save the Church as they know it, Peter Rollins takes an ax to the roots of the tree. Those who have enjoyed its shade will want to stop him, but his strokes are so clean and true that his motive soon becomes clear: this man trusts the way of death and resurrection so much that he has become fearless of religion." </strong></em><br />
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<em> </em><em> </em>--Barbara Brown Taylor, author of Leaving Church and An Altar in the World<br />
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<em><strong>“Rollins writes and thinks like a new Bonhoeffer, crucifying the trappings of religion in order to lay bare a radical, religionless and insurrectional Christianity. A brilliant new voice—an activist, a storyteller and a theologian all in one—and not a moment too soon.” </strong></em><br />
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--John D. Caputo, Thomas J. Watson Professor of Religion Emeritus, Syracuse University<br />
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<em><strong>“What does it mean when the Son of God cries out, ‘My God, My God, why have you forsaken me’? Brilliantly, candidly, and faithfully, Rollins wrestles here with that question. You may not agree with his answers and conclusions, but you owe it to yourself and to the Church at large to read what he says.” </strong></em><br />
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--Phyllis Tickle, author, The Great Emergence<br />
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<em><strong>"Excellent thinking and excellent writing! I hope this fine book receives the broad reading it deserves. It will change lives, and our understanding of what religion is all about!"</strong></em><br />
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-- Rohr,O.F.M., Center for Action and Contemplation; Albuquerque, New Mexico </strong><strong></strong>SMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06654437344212232425noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2915921099025902838.post-58875725462941539562011-10-12T15:45:00.001-05:002011-10-12T15:45:42.378-05:00Checking In & A Friendly ReminderLife has gotten busy and I'm hoping for a renewal of time to be able to read and write on spirituality soon. I just wanted to check in and remind readers of this truth:<br />
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<strong>Unconditional love means you do not need to do anything to earn it. Not even believe in it. </strong><br />
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I believe God is unconditional love. So that whole thing about believing in God in order to be 'saved'...yeah, I don't buy it. <br />
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I think as far as The Good Book goes, thinking believers should to take a closer look at its interpretations and the origins of those interpretations with reference to the suspiciously unChrist-like texts citing the heavenly privilege of elitist believers. That passage needs to be reviewed within the context of the political, and social upheaval of the time in which it was written. That is something few pastors or priests will expound upon.SMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06654437344212232425noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2915921099025902838.post-20045169898232415722011-07-13T14:31:00.000-05:002011-07-13T14:31:36.729-05:00Shame of the Emerald Isle<span style="color: #990000; font-family: "Courier New", Courier, monospace;"><span style="font-size: large;"><strong>One word:</strong> <strong>Unacceptable.</strong></span></span><div class="yom-mod yom-art-hd"><h1 class="headline"><span style="font-size: large;">------------------------------</span></h1><h1 class="headline"><span style="color: #274e13; font-size: large;">Irish Catholic Church concealed child abuse in 1990s</span></h1><div class="bd"><cite class="byline vcard"><span style="color: #274e13;">Reuters - </span></cite><cite class="byline vcard"><span style="color: #274e13;">By <span class="fn">Conor Humphries</span> | <span class="provider org">Reuters</span> – <abbr title="2011-07-13T18:17:29Z">July 13, 2011</abbr></span></cite></div><div class="bd"><cite class="byline vcard"><abbr title="2011-07-13T18:17:29Z"><a href="http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTI1c3RzdnBnBF9TAzk3ODUwMDI3NQRnc3RhdGUDMQRwb3MDNwRzZWMDbndfd29ybGQEc2xrA3RpdGxlBHRhcgNuZXdzLnlhaG9vLmNvbQ--/SIG=13a0f1fpa/EXP=1311794720/**http%3A//news.yahoo.com/irish-catholic-church-concealed-child-abuse-1990s-171904516.html"><span style="color: #274e13;">Original Source Link</span></a></abbr></cite></div></div><!-- START article --><div class="yog-wrap yom-art-bd"><div class="yog-col yog-5u"><span style="color: #274e13;"><!-- yog-5u --></span></div><div class="yog-col yog-11u"><div class="yom-mod yom-art-content"><div class="bd"><span style="color: #274e13;">DUBLIN (Reuters) - A government-sponsored report said on Wednesday the hierarchy of the Catholic Church in Ireland continued to conceal the <span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1310581206_4">sexual abuse</span> of children by priests even after it introduced rules in the mid-1990s to protect minors.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #274e13;">Revelations of rape and beatings by members of religious orders and the <span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1310581206_0">priesthood</span> in the past have shattered the dominant role of the Catholic Church in Ireland.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #274e13;">But the latest report into the handling of sex abuse claims in the diocese of Cloyne, in County Cork, shows that senior-ranking clergy were still trying to cover up abuse allegations almost until the present day.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #274e13;">"This is not a catalog of failure from a different era. This is not about an Ireland of 50 years ago. This is about Ireland now," Minister for Children Frances Fitzgerald told a news conference.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #274e13;">The report, which focuses on 19 priests who allegedly abused children during a period from January 1996 to February 2009, lists how the <span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1310581206_3">diocese</span> failed to report all sexual abuse complaints to the police and did not report any complaints to the health authorities between 1996 and 2008.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #274e13;">The bishop formerly responsible for the diocese, John Magee, falsely told the authorities that he was reporting all abuse allegations to the police, the report said.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #274e13;">He resigned in March last year after a Church investigation said his handling of abuse allegations had exposed children to risk.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #274e13;">Magee issued an apology to victims on Wednesday for his failure to report abuse and said he hoped the report would "provide the new beginning that we all had hoped for in 1996."</span><br />
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<span style="color: #274e13;">The report also criticized the Vatican as "entirely unhelpful" by describing Irish church guidelines on how to deal with abuse accusations as "merely a study document."</span><br />
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<span style="color: #274e13;">"The church guidelines weren't applied and it is quite clear also that the Vatican were complicit in that," Shatter said. The government will decide soon whether to summon the papal nuncio, the pope's representative in Ireland, over the matter, he said.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #274e13;">"It just goes to show we cannot trust the words of the Church and that is a very sad thing to say," said Maeve Lewis, head of abuse survivor group One in Four.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #274e13;">"I don't believe for one minute that Cloyne is a rogue diocese, different from the others."</span><br />
<span style="color: #274e13;">The report said that the Church's own guidelines would have protected children had they been implemented. Complainants' pain was compounded by the fact that their abusers appeared to have suffered no sanctions after the abuse had been revealed.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #274e13;">One accusation of abuse against a girl aged nine was dismissed by investigators as mere "over familiarity" despite the fact that the priest in question had admitted fondling girls in the past.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #274e13;">Another priest was <span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1310581206_5">ordained</span> against the advice of a psychologist who found evidence of "deep sexual repression" and evidence of psychosis. No reports were made to the police despite complaints by three young men who said the priest got them drunk and abused them.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #274e13;">"Without exception, (victims) felt that they had been let down by the institutional Church," the report said.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #274e13;">"They were all of the opinion that in their meetings with higher Church officials, the sole concern was the protection of the institution rather than the wellbeing of children."</span><br />
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<span style="color: #274e13;">One priest even officiated at the wedding of one of his victims, the report said.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #274e13;">The report is the fourth by a government commission in Ireland. A 2009 report on widespread child abuse by priests in the Dublin archdiocese between 1975 and 2004 said the Church in Ireland had "obsessively" concealed the abuse.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #274e13;">The head of the Catholic Church in Ireland Cardinal Sean Brady issued an apology to express his "shame and sorrow" at what happened.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #274e13;">The release of the report marked "another dark day" for the Catholic church in Ireland, he said.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #274e13;">(Editing by Carmel Crimmins and Jon Boyle)</span><br />
<span style="color: #274e13;">(Reporting by Conor Humphries; Editing by Jon Boyle)</span></div></div></div></div>SMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06654437344212232425noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2915921099025902838.post-15502450976456836182011-06-21T09:57:00.000-05:002011-06-21T09:57:36.718-05:00Get a Load of This<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">Here's an old school Sunday School book. All I can say is WOW. </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br />
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By <strong>Richard Allen Greene</strong>, CNN<br />
June 20, 2011<o:p></o:p><br />
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<strong>(CNN) - </strong>As a young man studying for the priesthood, Patrick Wall imagined life as a professor and football coach at a Catholic university. It didn't work out that way. Two decades later, Wall has not only left the Catholic Church, he has become one of its most tireless opponents. He's an ex-priest, driven from ministry by the feeling that his superiors used him to help cover up sex abuse by other clergymen. And he's using the training he gained as a priest to work with victims of abuse who want to take the church to court.<o:p></o:p><br />
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Since 1991, Wall says he has consulted on more than 1,000 abuse cases, helping lawyers pick apart defenses mounted by dioceses from <st1:state w:st="on">Alaska</st1:state> to <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Australia</st1:place></st1:country-region>. Now a senior consultant at the law firm of Manly and Stewart in Southern California, Wall spoke to CNN on the sidelines of a recent conference for legal and religion scholars at <st1:placename w:st="on">Cardiff</st1:placename> <st1:placename w:st="on">Law</st1:placename> <st1:placetype w:st="on">School</st1:placetype> in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Wales</st1:place></st1:country-region>.<o:p></o:p><br />
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In <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Philadelphia</st1:place></st1:city>, where four priests and a Catholic school teacher were indicted on sex abuse charges earlier this year, Wall says he is helping the district attorney build an unprecedented criminal case not only against the clergy, but against an archdiocesan official who supervised them. The priests – one of whom is the church official – and the teacher have denied the allegations.<o:p></o:p><br />
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The case is potentially historic. Wall doesn't know of another case where a <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">U.S.</st1:place></st1:country-region> prosecutor has gone after an official at the top of the church hierarchy as well as the suspected abusers themselves.<o:p></o:p><br />
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Prosecutors are trying to convict a vicar – the man who supervised the priests in the archdiocese – with child endangerment because they say he allowed suspected abusers to have contact with young people. The case raises the possibility that a high-ranking church official will end up behind bars. Wall hopes the threat of prison time will change the way American bishops respond to abuse allegations in a way that civil lawsuits have not.<o:p></o:p><br />
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"In the civil cases, we have taken over $3 billion, but you're not getting a lot of change in the system," he says. Patrick Wall outside a recent conference in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Wales</st1:place></st1:country-region>.<o:p></o:p><br />
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There has been more than a decade of intense focus on abuse by priests across the United States and Western Europe, plus lawsuits, investigations, and Vatican statements, including instructions to bishops around the world just last month to come up with an abuse policy. And even so, Wall says, priests are still abusing children.<o:p></o:p><br />
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"I'm working on stuff that happened in the summer of 2010," he says. "It's the same old sodomy."<o:p></o:p><br />
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<strong>A life-changing assignment </strong><o:p></o:p><br />
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Wall was studying to be a priest at <st1:city w:st="on">Saint John's</st1:city> Abbey in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:city w:st="on">Collegeville</st1:city>, <st1:state w:st="on">Minnesota</st1:state></st1:place>, when there was a life-changing knock on his door one morning after breakfast.<o:p></o:p><br />
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At his door that day in 1990 was the head of the abbey, Abbot Jerome Theisen, with an assignment, Wall says.<o:p></o:p><br />
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Wall, then 25, was to move into one of the freshman dormitories at the university associated with the abbey. The abbot wanted him to become a faculty resident, a staff position that involved keeping an eye on first-year university students in college housing. He was to make the move immediately, that very morning.<o:p></o:p><br />
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Wall knew why.<o:p></o:p><br />
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"Starting in 1989, we started getting hit with lawsuit after lawsuit" from people alleging that priests had abused them, Wall says. He says the abbot told him that credible abuse accusations had been made against the man Wall was to replace.<o:p></o:p><br />
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Brother Paul Richards, a spokesman for <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Saint John's</st1:place></st1:city> Abbey, said that the monastery and university had no record of why Wall was asked to work in the dorm. Abbot Theisen has died, Richards added.<o:p></o:p><br />
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<st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Saint John's</st1:place></st1:city> Abbey adopted a policy on sexual abuse and exploitation in 1989, it says on its website, saying that made it “among the first institutions to adopt” such a policy.<o:p></o:p><br />
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Wall, for his part, says the abbot's request put him on the road to becoming what the church unofficially calls a "fixer," a person who parachutes in to replace clergy who have to disappear quickly and quietly.<o:p></o:p><br />
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<div class="wp-caption-text" style="margin: 1em 0in;">Wall as the temporary administrator at a <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:city w:st="on">Maplewood</st1:city>, <st1:state w:st="on">Minnesota</st1:state></st1:place> church in 1995.<o:p></o:p></div><br />
One of Theisen's successors, Abbot John Klassen, issued an open letter of apology in 2002, saying that "some members" of the monastic community had engaged in "abusive sexual behavior with people in our schools and parishes."<o:p></o:p><br />
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A lawsuit was filed earlier this month against <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Saint John's</st1:place></st1:city> by a man who says he was abused in the 1960s by a priest who later served as abbot between Theisen and Klassen. The abbey says it was “shocked” by the charges against the late Abbot Timothy Kelly, who died of cancer last year.<o:p></o:p><br />
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It says it is investigating the claims against Kelly, calling them “the first allegations that Abbot Kelly violated his vows or was an abuser.”<o:p></o:p><br />
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Wall plans to testify in that case, he told CNN.<o:p></o:p><br />
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"In the fall of '92 we had another 13 [abuse] cases come through," Wall says. "They pushed up my ordination" by a few months, Wall says, so he could step into the shoes of another priest who had to vanish.<o:p></o:p><br />
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<strong>Understanding the damage</strong><o:p></o:p><br />
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It was after his ordination, Wall says, that he began to understand the trauma that abusive priests were inflicting, not only on their victims but on victims' families and communities.<o:p></o:p><br />
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As a new priest, Wall started hearing confessions of victims' relatives who blamed themselves for the abuse, telling Wall "I should have known, I should have seen the signs."<o:p></o:p><br />
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A heavy-set man who laughs easily, Wall still looks like the linebacker he was in high school and college. He peppers his speech with words like "dude" and casually refers to people who he thinks have done something stupid as "morons."<o:p></o:p><br />
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But relating the confessions of victims' relatives, Wall's cheerful demeanor hardens.<o:p></o:p><br />
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"I'm telling them, 'You haven't committed a sin,'" he says.<o:p></o:p><br />
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<div class="wp-caption-text" style="margin: 1em 0in;">Wall, right, with his mom, dad and a diocesan priest in 1989.<o:p></o:p></div><br />
Wall says that child abuse isn't like other injury cases, such as car crashes, in which a victim might be 10% at fault. Instead, he says, "100% of the blame is on the perpetrator."<o:p></o:p><br />
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Over the next four years, Wall says that the Archdiocese of Saint Paul and <st1:city w:st="on">Minneapolis</st1:city> sent him to four more places in <st1:state w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Minnesota</st1:place></st1:state> where priests needed to move out fast.<o:p></o:p><br />
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He learned a lot. Wall says he saw that there was a budget for handling cases of priestly sexual abuse as far back as 1994, eight years before the scandal blew up nationally with revelations about abuse in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:city w:st="on">Boston</st1:city>, <st1:state w:st="on">Massachusetts</st1:state></st1:place>. The archdiocese could not immediately confirm that, but spokesman Dennis McGrath said he would not be surprised if it was true, saying the archdiocese had been a leader in helping victims of abuse.<o:p></o:p><br />
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Wall did what the church told him to do for as long as he could, he says, but his doubts continued to grow.<o:p></o:p><br />
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"I followed the party line," he says. "But it's pretty hard to follow the party line when you don't think the party line is moral any more."<o:p></o:p><br />
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The breaking point came in 1997. Wall was in <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Rome</st1:place></st1:city>, studying for a master's of divinity degree. His abbot called from <st1:state w:st="on">Minnesota</st1:state> to tell him he was being posted to the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Bahamas</st1:place></st1:country-region>.<o:p></o:p><br />
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It was not the dream job it might sound like.<o:p></o:p><br />
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Wall says that the <st1:country-region w:st="on">Bahamas</st1:country-region> was where <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Saint John's</st1:place></st1:city> was sending priests it had to keep away from people because of abuse allegations. Richards, the abbey's spokesman, flatly denies the charge.<o:p></o:p><br />
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"I basically was going to be a prison warden," Wall says.<o:p></o:p><br />
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"Without much planning, I said, 'Basta cosi,'" he says, lapsing into Minnesota-accented Italian meaning, "Enough of this." Wall had decided to leave the priesthood.<o:p></o:p><br />
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<div class="wp-caption-text" style="margin: 1em 0in;">Patrick Wall at his first mass as a priest in December 1992.<o:p></o:p></div><br />
The abbot did not take that well, Wall says, warning that he would never make it in "the real world," that he would not be released from his priestly vows and that the order would bill him for the master's degree it had sponsored for him. The tab for the degree was about $48,000, he says.<o:p></o:p><br />
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Richards denies those allegations. "It has never been the abbey's practice to require payback for education from members of our community who have left," he says, "and it was not the case with Pat Wall."<o:p></o:p><br />
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Wall says the abbot's threats did not change his mind.<o:p></o:p><br />
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"All it did is piss me off even more," he says. "I left without a plan in December 1997."<o:p></o:p><br />
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<strong>Insider knowledge</strong><o:p></o:p><br />
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Wall says he went home to <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:city w:st="on">Lake City</st1:city>, <st1:state w:st="on">Minnesota</st1:state></st1:place> to live with his parents, then bounced from job to job for nearly five years. He got married and had a daughter. He made good money as a salesman in <st1:place w:st="on">Southern California</st1:place> but says he found the work as intellectually stimulating as "shovelling dirt."<o:p></o:p><br />
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And then, in 2002, the <st1:state w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">California</st1:place></st1:state> state legislature did something that would change Wall's life. The state opened a one-year window to allow victims of clergy abuse to sue the church, even if the if the statute of limitations on the case had already expired.<o:p></o:p><br />
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Wall's eyes light up as he discusses the moment.<o:p></o:p><br />
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The law did not specifically target the Catholic Church, Wall says, noting that some rabbis were sued as well. But Catholic organizations were by far the largest group of defendants.<o:p></o:p><br />
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Still, suing a Catholic diocese was no easy task. "The litigation demanded a level of expertise that had never been needed before," Wall says.<o:p></o:p><br />
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Because of his religious training in canon law, as the Catholic Church's rules are known, Wall had that expertise. He knew how and where the church kept records. He knew where money came from and where it went. He spoke Italian and Latin.<o:p></o:p><br />
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In his first case, he testified against the Roman Catholic Diocese of Orange, California, challenging its claim that it did not know the Franciscan friar at the center of abuse allegations.<o:p></o:p><br />
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Wall insisted that the archdiocese and any priest in it would have easy access to church records saying who the Franciscan was and who had jurisdiction over him.<o:p></o:p><br />
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The case settled out of court, Wall says.<o:p></o:p><br />
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The Diocese of Orange declined to comment for this article, as did the Archdiocese of Los Angeles, which is the defendant in several cases currently involving Wall’s firm, Manly and Stewart.<o:p></o:p><br />
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Jeffrey Lena, a lawyer who represents the <st1:country-region w:st="on">Vatican</st1:country-region> in the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">United States</st1:place></st1:country-region>, also declined to comment.<o:p></o:p><br />
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But Jeff Anderson, a Minnesota-based lawyer who specializes in suing the Catholic Church on behalf of abuse victims and filed the suit against <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Saint John</st1:place></st1:city>'s Abbey, is full of praise for Wall.<o:p></o:p><br />
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<st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Anderson</st1:place></st1:city> calls Wall “an extraordinary researcher, academic and hands-on voice of experience from the inside.”<o:p></o:p><br />
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He praises the former priest's “courage,” and says he is a “powerful, insightful source of information based on his own personal experience and his study of the phenomenon” of abuse.<o:p></o:p><br />
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<strong>An old problem </strong><o:p></o:p><br />
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Wall argues that the problem of abuse by priests is far older than anyone in the church admits publicly.<o:p></o:p><br />
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The earliest church records concerning sexual misconduct by priests come from the Council of Elvira, he says. That synod took place in what is now <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Spain</st1:place></st1:country-region> in the year 309.<o:p></o:p><br />
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There was a treatment center for abusive priests in Hartford, Connecticut, as far back as 1822, Wall says, and the Vatican issued instructions to American bishops on how to judge and punish accusations of criminal acts by priests as far back as 1883.<o:p></o:p><br />
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Wall provided his translation of the 1883 instructions to CNN. They do not refer to any specific crimes, but refer to “abuses” and “evils.” They set out how to investigate, judge and punish crimes by priests, laying out rules such as the examination of witnesses in private, and the opportunity for the accused to know the charges and to respond and appeal.<o:p></o:p><br />
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The <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Philadelphia</st1:place></st1:city> district attorney's office declined to comment on assistance it is receiving from Wall, saying it was prevented by court order from discussing the case with the media.<o:p></o:p><br />
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But Wall says that years of seeing how the Catholic Church handles abuse cases have convinced him that the church will not solve the problem itself.<o:p></o:p><br />
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He says he's not impressed by new instructions from <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Rome</st1:place></st1:city> last month giving bishops around the world a year to come up with procedures for handling allegations of abuse.<o:p></o:p><br />
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"It's a Circular Letter," he says, using the official church term for the document. "That means it's for the circular file. Bishops are going to throw it away."<o:p></o:p><br />
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Last week, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops revised its 2002 charter around dealing with sex abuse allegations to reflect the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Vatican</st1:place></st1:country-region>'s new standards.<o:p></o:p><br />
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Wall believes the Catholic Church will survive this scandal.<o:p></o:p><br />
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"It's going to fix itself," he says.<o:p></o:p><br />
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"The institution is going to become radically smaller" as people abandon the church, he predicts. "The loss of membership, the problems in the criminal courts, the statements from the pope - these are all good."<o:p></o:p><br />
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Perpetrators need "access, power and money" in order to commit crimes and get away with them, Wall argues. A smaller, weaker Catholic Church won't be able to provide those things, making it less of a haven for abusers, he says, which will lead to a cleansed institution.<o:p></o:p><br />
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In the meantime, Wall says, the church should give up trying to handle abusers internally and let the law step in.<o:p></o:p><br />
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He recommends that the church "completely get out" of child protection, hand over all its files to civil law enforcement, and make bishops sign a legal oath every year that there are no perpetrators in the ministry - which would open them to criminal prosecution if they are found to have lied.<o:p></o:p><br />
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"Otherwise," he says, "I'll be prosecuting priest sex abuse cases for the rest of my life."<o:p></o:p>SMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06654437344212232425noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2915921099025902838.post-91960052585174807742011-05-26T12:41:00.000-05:002011-05-26T12:41:23.384-05:00Priest Sex-Abuse Case Hits Church of Pope's Adviser<div id="date2">Notice that in the course of this article, the victims are not even addressed by the Church. It is the "great pain in seeing a priest who is not faithful to his vocation."</div><div> </div><div>All things done in secret <strong>will</strong> come to light. This reads like a movie script in the sense that I cannot fathom the predatory evil. These are the most dispicable acts that could be perpetrated by such a person in power and trust upon innocents...and in the alleged service of God. Hypocrisy of this scale has never been so outrageous and cummulatively damaging. Faith and God has nothing to do with the Church anymore, it seems.</div><div> </div><div>I was speaking with a friend about this article and he pointed out that one of these days a dad will take vengeance on his child's predator, and that predator will be a priest. I'm actually surprised this has not happened more often.</div><div> </div><div>The AntiChrist works from within the flock, that's for damn sure. And there are so many of them in all tiers of the Catholic Church. Too bad morality in the "church government" cannot be federally regulated, eh? Lots of Madoffs would surface there, too.</div><div> </div>---------------------------------------------<br />
<strong><span style="color: #351c75; font-size: large;">Priest Sex-Abuse Case Hits Church of Pope's Adviser</span></strong><br />
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<div><em><span style="color: #351c75;">Thursday, May. 19, 2011 - </span></em><a href="http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2072613,00.html?xid=rss-world"><span style="color: #351c75;">Original Source</span></a></div><div><em><span style="color: #351c75;"></span></em> </div><div><em><span style="color: #351c75;">By Alessandra Pieracci and Giacomo Galeazzi / La Stampa / Worldcrunch</span></em></div><em><span style="color: #351c75;">This post is in partnership with </span></em><a href="http://www.worldcrunch.com/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #351c75;">Worldcrunch</span></a><em><span style="color: #351c75;">, a new global news site that translates stories of note in foreign languages into English. The article below was originally published in the leading Italian daily </span></em><a href="http://www.lastampa.it/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #351c75;">La Stampa</span></a><span style="color: #351c75;">. </span><br />
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<span style="color: #351c75;">(GENOA) — The latest sex-abuse case to rock the Catholic Church is unfolding in the archdiocese of an influential Italian Cardinal who has been working with Pope Benedict XVI on reforms to respond to prior scandals of pedophile priests. </span><br />
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<span style="color: #351c75;">Father Riccardo Seppia, a 51-year-old parish priest in the village of Sastri Ponente, near Genoa, was arrested last Friday, May 13, on pedophilia and drug charges. Investigators say that in tapped mobile-phone conversations, Seppia asked a Moroccan drug dealer to arrange sexual encounters with young and vulnerable boys. "I do not want 16-year-old boys but younger. Fourteen-year-olds are O.K. Look for needy boys who have family issues," he allegedly said. Genoa Archbishop Angelo Bagnasco, who is the head of the Italian Bishops Conference, had been working with Benedict to establish a tough new worldwide policy, released this week, on how bishops should handle accusations of priestly sex abuse. <span class="see"><a href="http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2072129,00.html" target="_blank">(Read "Vatican Gets Tough on Child Abuse but Not Tough Enough.)</a></span> </span><br />
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<span style="color: #351c75;">Bagnasco said that when he met the Pope this weekend, he "asked for a particular blessing for my archdiocese" in light of the alleged crimes, adding that "like every father toward a son [feels] great pain in seeing a priest who is not faithful to his vocation." </span><br />
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<span style="color: #351c75;">Vatican spokesman Father Federico Lombardi praised Bagnasco's handling of the Sastri Ponente case, lauding its "timeliness and competence." On Saturday, May 14, the Cardinal visited the Santo Spirito church, where Seppia was the parish priest. </span><br />
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<span style="color: #351c75;">According to investigators, Seppia told a friend — a former seminarian and barman who is currently under investigation — that the town's malls were the best places to entice minors. In tapped phone conversations the two cursed and swore against God. The priest is charged with having attempted to kiss and touch an underage altar boy and of having exchanged cocaine for sexual intercourse with boys over 18. <span class="see"><a href="http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2065958,00.html" target="_blank">(See inside Benedict XVI's daily life.)</a></span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #351c75;">Seppia's defense lawyers are expected to argue that those conversations — monitored since Oct. 20, 2010 — were just words, sex games that were played by adults. It was just a game even when he claimed to have "kissed on the mouth" a 15-year-old altar boy, according to the defense. </span><br />
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<span style="color: #351c75;">On Monday, May 16, during formal questioning by Genoa's investigating magistrate Annalisa Giacalone, Seppia chose not to respond. The magistrate decided to keep him in custody to avoid a risk of relapse or tampering with evidence. Defense attorney Paolo Bonanni said the defense wants to evaluate all the charges, reserving the right to respond to public prosecutor Stefano Puppo in the coming days. </span><br />
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<span style="color: #351c75;">Questioned by the investigators, the altar boy reportedly confirmed the attempted kiss. Another male minor who, according to the investigators, was stalked with messages and pressing invitations, will be questioned soon. Psychologists are helping Carabinieri police officers obtain testimony from the alleged victims. "The boys are ashamed to talk and to admit what happened," says one of the investigators. The evidence amounts to at least 50 messages and phone calls. In the tapped phone conversations, the drug dealer contacted the boys and gave their phone numbers to the priest, who paid them with cocaine or 50 euros each time for sexual intercourse. <span class="see"><a href="http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2072574,00.html" target="_blank">(Read "Controversial Study Links Catholic Abuse to '60s Culture and Church Hierarchy but Offers Few Solutions.")</a></span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #351c75;">Seppia is currently being kept in a confinement cell in a Genoa prison. He met the jail's priest and psychologist. "He has read the newspapers, and he is pained by his parishioners' comments," says his lawyer. The investigation is ongoing.</span>SMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06654437344212232425noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2915921099025902838.post-2102665327961384712011-05-24T13:25:00.002-05:002011-05-24T13:27:20.732-05:00Post Rapture LevitySo, here we are and the "Rapture" has come and gone. How am I ever to survive in this post-apocalyptic world? <br />
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Here is a little levity from <a href="http://www.martinzender.com/">Martin Zender</a>, whom I am connected with on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/#!/home.php?sk=group_139263450150&ap=1">Facebook</a>. He is very funny in his portrayal of God. <br />
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Here, he talks about <a href="http://www.robbell.com/">Rob Bell's book, <em>Love Wins</em></a>. <br />
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Rapturists absolutely salivate at the thought of others not being chosen, of others not being flown up to heaven with them to be with God. They love the idea of looking down on others in peril because they alone did what was right and just. It's what makes them feel special. It is utterly childish and unloving to smile upon your brethren who are allegedly going to be left on earth. That is not Christ's love. That is not what Christ taught. And most importantly it scratches out the idea that God's love is unconditional. It makes God look like a selective bastard who conducted this whole world experiment knowing that a fraction of a fraction would make the cut, willing to scrap a berjillion people because they exercised the free will He gave them in a way unpleasing to him. Numerous biblical parables (not to mention common sense) contradict this. Oh, and the bible specifically states that "no one knows the day or the hour". Not even these people. I think they do a disservice to Christianity and believers in general. Their credulous declarations cast a pall over all believers as being "nutters".<br />
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End of the world? I call bullshit.<br />
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I'm halfway through Barbara Rossing's book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0813343143?v=glance&n=283155&s=books&v=glance">The Rapture Exposed: The Message of Hope in the Book of Revelation</a>. It is a worthy read and one that knocks any rapturistic attempt at logic in the dirt.<br />
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The idea of "The Rapture" --- the return of Christ to rescue and deliver Christians off the earth --- is an extremely popular interpretation of the Bible's Book of Revelation and a jumping-off point for the best-selling "Left Behind" series of books. This interpretation, based on a psychology of fear and destruction, guides the daily acts of thousands if not millions of people worldwide. In <em>The Rapture Exposed</em>, Barbara Rossing argues that this script for the world's future is nothing more than a disingenuous distortion of the Bible. The truth, Rossing argues, is that Revelation offers a vision of God's healing love for the world. <em>The Rapture Exposed</em> reclaims Christianity from fundamentalists' destructive reading of the biblical story and back into God's beloved community.SMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06654437344212232425noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2915921099025902838.post-72289680481429398422011-05-18T13:10:00.001-05:002011-05-18T13:10:43.386-05:00Blame Woodstock: Church Report Cites Social Tumult in Priest Scandals<span style="color: #666666;">I may be off my rocker here, but when an organization wants to REGAIN credibility through statistical studies wouldn't they be better off hiring an impartial, unbiased outside source to conduct a study? Yeah, thought so. Goal not achieved.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #666666;">Blaming the sexual revolution in America for the sexual crimes of priests is as good as saying everyone should go back to the Victorian sensibilities of being ashamed of sex, their bodies, and homosexuality. Women should stay home and endure sex and no one should ever be nude or talk about sex, eroticism or any of those naughty sinful things. Placing blame is what I expect the Catholic Church to do. It becomes comical when they do it this overtly, though.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #351c75;"><em>In one of the most counterintuitive findings, the report says that fewer than 5 percent of the abusive priests exhibited behavior consistent with pedophilia, which it defines as a “psychiatric disorder that is characterized by recurrent fantasies, urges and behaviors about prepubescent children. “Thus, it is inaccurate to refer to abusers as ‘pedophile priests,’ ” the report says. </em></span><br />
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<span style="color: #666666;">Actions speak louder than any psych eval, folks. This report is a crock of shit, if I may be so bold. </span><span style="color: #666666;">Since the beginning of priesthood in general there have been abuses. I personally feel as if </span><span style="color: black;"><span style="color: #666666;">celibacy <strong>is</strong> and <strong>always has been</strong> the problem here. By the very nature of our biological design, we're programmed to want sex...hetero, homo, or otherwise. God designed us to copulate. It ranks right up there as one of the most powerful forces in the universe. So remind me again why this ridiculous deprivation continues? To ensure that church property doesn't fall into the hands of offspring? Yeah, maybe it is time to rethink that business model. </span></span><br />
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<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75; font-size: large;"><strong>Church Report Cites Social Tumult in Priest Scandals</strong></span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75; font-size: x-small;">By LAURIE GOODSTEIN</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75; font-size: x-small;">New York Times - May 17, 2011 - </span><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/18/us/18bishops.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all"><span style="color: #351c75; font-size: x-small;">Original Source</span></a></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;"></span></div><span style="color: #351c75;"></span><br />
<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">A five-year study commissioned by the nation’s Roman Catholic bishops to provide a definitive answer to what caused the church’s sexual abuse crisis has concluded that neither the all-male celibate priesthood nor homosexuality were to blame. </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">Instead, the report says, the abuse occurred because priests who were poorly prepared and monitored, and were under stress, landed amid the social and sexual turmoil of the 1960s and ’70s. </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">Known occurrences of sexual abuse of minors by priests rose sharply during those decades, the report found, and the problem grew worse when the church’s hierarchy responded by showing more care for the perpetrators than the victims. </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">The “blame Woodstock” explanation has been floated by bishops since the church was engulfed by scandal in the United States in 2002 and by Pope Benedict XVI after it erupted in Europe in 2010. </span></div><span style="color: #351c75;"></span><br />
<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">But this study is likely to be regarded as the most authoritative analysis of the scandal in the Catholic Church in America. The study, initiated in 2006, was conducted by a team of researchers at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York City at a cost of $1.8 million. About half was provided by the bishops, with additional money contributed by Catholic organizations and foundations. The National Institute of Justice, the research agency of the United States Department of Justice, supplied about $280,000. </span></div><span style="color: #351c75;"></span><br />
<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">The report was to be released Wednesday by the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops in Washington, but the Religion News Service published an account of the report on its Web site on Tuesday. A copy of the report was also obtained by The New York Times. The bishops have said they hope the report will advance the understanding and prevention of child sexual abuse in society at large. </span></div><span style="color: #351c75;"></span><br />
<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">The researchers concluded that it was not possible for the church, or for anyone, to identify abusive priests in advance. Priests who abused minors have no particular “psychological characteristics,” “developmental histories” or mood disorders that distinguished them from priests who had not abused, the researchers found. </span></div><span style="color: #351c75;"></span><br />
<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">Since the scandal broke, conservatives in the church have blamed gay priests for perpetrating the abuse, while liberals have argued that the all-male, celibate culture of the priesthood was the cause. This report will satisfy neither flank. </span></div><span style="color: #351c75;"></span><br />
<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">The report notes that homosexual men began entering the seminaries “in noticeable numbers” from the late 1970s through the 1980s. By the time this cohort entered the priesthood, in the mid-1980s, the reports of sexual abuse of minors by priests began to drop and then to level off. If anything, the report says, the abuse decreased as more gay priests began serving the church. </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">Many more boys than girls were victimized, the report says, not because the perpetrators were gay, but simply because the priests had more access to boys than to girls, in parishes, schools and extracurricular activities. </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">In one of the most counterintuitive findings, the report says that fewer than 5 percent of the abusive priests exhibited behavior consistent with pedophilia, which it defines as a “psychiatric disorder that is characterized by recurrent fantasies, urges and behaviors about prepubescent children. </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">“Thus, it is inaccurate to refer to abusers as ‘pedophile priests,’ ” the report says. </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">That finding is likely to prove controversial, in part because the report employs a definition of “prepubescent” children as those age 10 and under. Using this cutoff, the report found that only 22 percent of the priests’ victims were prepubescent. </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">The American Psychiatric Association’s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders classifies a prepubescent child as generally age 13 or younger. If the John Jay researchers had used that cutoff, a vast majority of the abusers’ victims would have been considered prepubescent. </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">The report, “The Causes and Context of Sexual Abuse of Minors by Catholic Priests in the United States, 1950-2002,” is the second produced by researchers at John Jay College. The first, on the “nature and scope” of the problem, was released in 2004. </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">Even before seeing it, victims advocates attacked the report as suspect because it relies on data provided by the church’s dioceses and religious orders. </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">Anne Barrett Doyle, the co-director of <a href="http://bishopaccountability.org/">BishopAccountability.org</a>, a Web site that compiles reports on abuse cases, said, “There aren’t many dioceses where prosecutors have gotten involved, but in every single instance there’s a vast gap — a multiplier of two, three or four times — between the numbers of perpetrators that the prosecutors find and what the bishops released.” </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">David Clohessy, national director of the <a href="http://www.snapnetwork.org/">Chicago-based Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests</a>, said that while the report contained no surprises, it had nonetheless been a disappointment because it did not include recommendations for far-reaching reforms, including limiting the power of bishops. Mr. Clohessy said this was critical because bishops had covered up many instances of sexual abuse by priests in the past. </span><br />
<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">“Predictably and conveniently, the bishops have funded a report that says what they’ve said all along, and what they wanted to hear back,” he said. “Fundamentally, they’ve found that they needn’t even consider any substantive changes.” </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">Robert M. Hoatson, a priest and a founder of Road to Recovery, which offers counseling and referrals to victims, said the idea that the sexual and social upheavals of past decades were to blame for the abuse of children was an attempt to shift responsibility from church leaders. Mr. Hoatson said he had been among those who had been abused.“It deflects responsibility from the bishops and puts it on to a sociological problem,” he said. “This is a people problem. It wasn’t because of the ’70s, and it wasn’t the ’60s, and it wasn’t because of the 1450s. This was something individuals did.” </span></div><span style="color: #351c75;"></span><br />
<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">Kristine Ward, the chairwoman of the National Survivor Advocates Coalition, said the cultural explanation did not appear to explain why abuse cases within the Catholic church have shaken places from Australia and Ireland to South America. “Does the culture of the U.S. in the 1960s explain that? It’s hard to believe,” she said. </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">William Donohue, president of the Catholic League, a conservative Catholic group, however said he believes permissiveness in the church in the 1960s and 1970s - particularly at seminaries - had been a significant reason for the rise in sexual abuse. Mr. Donohue said that while he generally supported the report’s findings, he believed that the study seemed to have purposefully avoided linking abuse cases with the increase in the number of gay men who became priests during the 1960s and 1970s. “The authors go through all sorts of contortions to deny the obvious - that obviously, homosexuality was at work,” Mr. Donohue said. </span></div><span style="color: #351c75;"></span><br />
<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">In Philadelphia, where a grand jury in February found that as many as 37 priests suspected of behavior ranging from sexual abuse to inappropriate actions were still serving in ministry. The archdiocese initially rejected the grand jury’s findings, but soon suspended 26 priests from ministry. </span></div><span style="color: #351c75;"></span><br />
<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">An essay in the Catholic magazine Commonweal last week by Ana Maria Catanzaro, who heads the Archdiocese of Philadelphia’s sexual-abuse review board, which is supposed to advise the archdiocese on how to handle abuse cases, said that the board was shocked to learn about the dozens of cases uncovered by the grand jury. Her essay raised questions about whether bishops provide accurate data even to their own, in-house review boards. </span></div><span style="color: #351c75;"></span><br />
<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">Still, the John Jay report says that when it comes to analyzing the incidence and causes of sexual abuse, “No organization has undertaken a study of itself in the manner of the Catholic Church.” </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">Because there are no comparable studies conducted by other institutions, religious or secular, the report says, “It is impossible to accurately compare the rate of sexual abuse within the Catholic Church to rates of abuse in other organizations.” </span></div></div><br />
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</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: inherit; font-size: small;">My search was not only internal but external, not only analog but digital. </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: inherit; font-size: small;">I think many people are disenfranchized with religious institutions feeling that they have the monopoly on God and are seeking answers online. Because it is such a personal issue, it can be risky to conduct open dialogue about one's beliefs on forums like Facebook or Twitter. God knows I have been in the midst of word wars on Facebook before. However, I am connected with other like-minded Christian Universalists on Facebook and enjoy reading posts and notes covering the obviously touchy topic that binds us. I'm also suspicious that I was recently unfriended by a close high school friend because I had this site linked to my Facebook profile and she found my beliefs to conflict with hers to such a degree that she couldn't even open up a discussion with me. She just...unfriended me. I accept that. I just find it a shame that fundamentalist Christians who are so engrossed in their own answers refuse to ask any questions in order to grow spiritually. They are stunted.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;">Technology as a means of information and spiritual support reveals in spades the unnecessary function that church buildings will play going forward. Yes, I think real personal interaction is necessary. I think shaking hands and hugging and speaking to one another in fellowship is needed. However, the structure of the physical church has morphed into 1s and 0s and new online communities are developing to hold online masses and services. People from all over the world are being connected through mouse clicks soaked in the teachings of Christ. Through YouTube and Skype, podcasts and blogs, God has infiltrated social networks and online forums offering us seekers the "Gutenberg Moment" in curating spiritual information for ourselves. </div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;">And today I just feel like ending my two cents worth with this statement that is in my mind today:</div><br />
<strong><em><span style="color: #660000;">Unconditional love means you don't have to do anything to earn it. Not even believe.</span></em></strong><br />
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<span style="color: #20124d;">May 15th, 2011 - </span><a href="http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/15/my-take-how-technology-could-bring-down-the-church/?hpt=C2"><span style="color: #20124d;">Original Source Link</span></a><br />
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<span style="color: #20124d;">This year marks the 400th anniversary of the King James Bible, and Bible publishers are ostentatiously commemorating the landmark by producing an abundance of gorgeous doorstops. Leather bound Bibles. Two-volume sets. Replicas of the 1611 version complete with “original” illustrations.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #20124d;">The hoopla is entirely justified, since the King James Bible revolutionized Bible reading, bringing Scripture into a common vernacular for the first time for the English-speaking world.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #20124d;">It is not too much to say that the King James Bible - mass produced as it was, thanks to a new technology called the printing press - democratized religion by taking it out of the hands of the clerical few and giving it to the many.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #20124d;">Today, another revolution in Bible reading is underway – one that has nothing to do with gilt-edged paper. If the King James Bible brought the Bible to the English-speaking masses, today’s technology goes a giant step further, making Scripture - in any language and any translation - accessible to anyone on earth with a smartphone.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #20124d;">Just like the 500-year-old Protestant Reformation, which was aided by the advent of the printing press and which helped give birth to the King James Bible, changes wrought by new technology have the potential to bring down the church as we know it.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #20124d;">In the face of church leaders who claimed that only they could interpret the Bible for the common people, Reformation leaders like Martin Luther taught that nothing supersedes the authority of the Word itself.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #20124d;">In that vein, digital technology gives users the text, plain and simple, without the interpretive lens of established authorities. And it lets users share interpretations with other non-authorities, like family members, friends and coworkers.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #20124d;">With Scripture on iPhones and iPads, believers can bypass constraining religious structures - otherwise known as “church” - in favor of a more individual connection with God.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #20124d;">This yearning for a more unmediated faith - including Bible verses live in your pocket or purse 24/7, available to inspire or console wherever and whenever they’re needed - has met an enthusiastic embrace.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #20124d;">Young people want to “consume” their spirituality the way they do their news or their music. They want to dip and dabble, the way they browse Facebook.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #20124d;">Thus the almost-insane popularity of Youversion, a digital Bible available for free on iTunes and developed by a 34-year-old technology buff and Christian pastor from Oklahoma named Bobby Gruenewald. He conceived of it, he told me, while on a layover at Chicago O'Hare International Airport, wishing he had a Bible to read.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #20124d;">“What we’re really trying to address is, how do we increase engagement in the Bible?” he said.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #20124d;">Now available in 113 versions and 41 languages, including Arabic, Youversion has a community component that allows users to share thoughts and insights on Bible verses with friends. It has been installed on more than 20 million smartphones since 2008.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #20124d;">On May 2, Youversion staged its own King James commemorative event: for 400 seconds, starting at noon, more than 10,0000 users logged on and read a portion of the Bible – King James translation, of course - a kind of 21st century Bible-reading flash mob.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #20124d;">Traditionalists worry that technology allows young believers to practice religion without committing to what in the south is called “a church home” - and they’re right.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #20124d;"><a href="http://www.dennyburk.com/lisa-miller-interviews-rob-bell/">I did a public Q&A with Michigan pastor Rob Bell</a> on the eve of the publication of his new bestseller "Love Wins" and was astonished, during the book-signing that followed, at how many acolytes felt they knew Rob through his sermons, which they regularly downloaded off the internet, even though they had never met him. They hailed from places like Australia, South Africa and New Jersey.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #20124d;">They listen to Bell while they’re working out, or commuting to work. They get their religion - like their meals – on the run.</span><br />
<span style="color: #20124d;">It is now possible to imagine the extinction of the family Bible, long given as a gift on graduation day or other big occasions and inscribed with special dates: births, marriages, deaths.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #20124d;">Instead, the Bible may someday exist exclusively online, with features that allow for personalization: Link to photos of weddings and baptisms! “Share” favorite verses!</span><br />
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<span style="color: #20124d;">When Bible study can be done on Facebook as easily as in the church basement, and a favorite preacher can teach lessons via podcast, the necessity of physically gathering each week in the same place with the same people turns remote.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #20124d;">Without a doubt, this represents a new crisis for organized religion, a challenge to think again about what it means to be a “body” of believers.</span><br />
<span style="color: #20124d;"><em>The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Lisa Miller.</em></span>SMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06654437344212232425noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2915921099025902838.post-79296105661652535622011-05-10T14:38:00.000-05:002011-05-10T14:38:30.321-05:00Wife Beating According to the Quran<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;">Just as I frown upon misogyny in literalist Christianity, I ABHOR the violence towards women in literalist Islam. This makes me sick to my stomach. I just want to wrap all of these abused women in my arms to comfort them. Isn’t that what a loving God would do?</div><br />
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<iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/0nUI3TUdFCk" width="425"></iframe>SMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06654437344212232425noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2915921099025902838.post-74564218974554150532011-04-18T14:42:00.006-05:002011-04-18T14:48:16.103-05:00The God Women Need<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: EN-US;">This is a terrific article. I love the questions raised. It reminds me of my days teaching Catechism when the kids would ask me why we "worshipped" Mary. And I had to explain that you don't worship her, per se, but simply ask for intercession and help - because that is what the Catholic Doctrine teaches. And it always felt weird to me. In the parables it seems as if the church found a figure (Mary) that appealed to women ("Come See the Softer Side of Christ?") - but keeping the power of "her" at arm's length - and using Mary as a role model of the meek mother birthing goodness...to market the role of the ideal Catholic breeder.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: EN-US;">Putting the penis on a theological pedestal, it is an age old construction of God's manhood. And it has been a work-in-progress ever since, attempting to reinforce the phallus while denigrating the woman. Take for example the old Hebrew myth of Lilith - the alleged first wife of Adam. Her mythical demonization occurred because she wanted equality and ended up speaking the name of God. The story essentially demotes her to the status of a succubi because she exercised (gasp) independence. And let's not forget The Gospel of Mary which was promptly chucked out by the men deciding what gospels made "the cut". And Thecla, who traveled with Paul, who lived a celibate life and baptized herself and for whom you hear almost nothing about in mainstream gospels. Women are ghosts of scripture, floating in the background. Their power was whispered, while men's was shouted. </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: EN-US;"><strong>People have difficulty recognizing that the Christ was likely sent in a man's body because at that time in history women were not heard. However, times have changed. It needs to be made clear that Christ shines through women, too. And the demise of the Catholic Church is visible in the reluctance to allow women to become priests / serve mass. The extinction of that religion will be the pinnacle lesson on the dangers of archaic misogyny.</strong></span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: EN-US;">Here's how I feel about it using some Photoshopped images. The bottom line is that women are equal to men in the eyes of God. Period. They can be empowered "relayers of the Word" and the Catholic Church will suffer great loss unless they ungag the women. The Protestants get it. Look how well their churches are doing...</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
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The God Women Need</span></strong></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: EN-US;"><span style="color: #351c75;">The Washington Post National - April 18, 2011</span></span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: EN-US;"><span style="color: #351c75;">By Jason Pitzl-Waters</span></span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: EN-US;"><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/on-faith/post/the-god-women-need/2011/04/13/AFPoGRWD_blog.html"><span style="color: #351c75;">Original Source</span></a></span><br />
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</div><div style="text-align: justify;"></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><em><span style="color: #351c75;">“We will not listen to the things you’ve said to us in the name of YHWH. On the contrary, we will certainly do all that we’ve vowed. We will make offerings to the Queen of Heaven, and pour libations to her as we used to do - we and our ancestors, our kings and princes in the towns of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem - because then we had plenty of bread and we were satisfied, and suffered no misfortune. But since we ceased making offerings to the Queen of Heaven and pouring libations to her, we have lacked everything and have been consumed by sword and famine. And when we make offerings to the Queen of Heaven and pour libations to her, is it without our husbands’ approval that we make cakes in her likeness and pour libations to her?” – Jeremiah 44:15-19, translation by Graham Harvey, from the Hebrew text of the Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia, excerpted from “The Paganism Reader.” </span></em></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">Leaving aside the “separate but equal” theory of religious gender roles for a moment, one has only to look towards the headlines to see how dangerous the idea of female empowerment still is within the world of faith and belief. The New York Times reports that a committee of American bishops have accused Catholic theologian and nun Sister Elizabeth A. Johnson of violating church doctrine, issuing a lengthy critique of her book “Quest For the Living God” due in part to her suggestion of using female imagery for God, an idea (among others) the Committee on Doctrine says “contaminates” traditional Catholic understandings of God. “Contaminates,” what an interesting and unintentionally apt choice of words! Because reading that critique you can see the fear of contamination dripping from its sentences, hoping against hope of placing (in the words of the NYT) “the study of the male and female aspects of God [...] substantially off-limits,” lest women once more start making offerings to the Queen of Heaven.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">Look at any religion’s myths, stories, or scriptures, is there room there for a female god? Does she exist? Art historian Merlin Stone, who passed away earlier this year, stated that “at the very dawn of religion, God was a woman. Do you remember?” Millions, perhaps billions, still do, and more awaken every day. They cast off the constricting “equality” of the dominant monotheisms while men from religious committees promote this spiritual amnesia as fast as they can. The conception of goddess, of a female divinity, undermines a religious and cultural power structure built on men. It asks too many questions, it makes too many demands, it voices the secret fear emblazoned on so many bumper stickers: “My Goddess gave birth to your God.”</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">If the goddesses are suppressed, if they are erased from history, reduced to lesser roles, or turned into demons, then there is no divinity that reflects the female experience. Instead of being the originators of life, subduers of injustice, and the source of all sovereignty, women are instead bearers of the “original sin.” No sane philosopher or theologian can claim this doesn’t change the very nature of a culture, or the way we perceive gender. Imagine for a moment how different the ever-raging debate over legal access to abortion, or even contraception, whether for or against, would be if women were seen as the final holy arbiters in the matter of creating life. I can only guess we’d see something very different from the parade of old white male politicians exclaiming about “moral” issues and threatening basic health care for women in the process. Once you open your mind to that first exercise in a world with goddesses it’s hard not to think of dozens, hundreds, more. Female priests and feminine divine pronouns would hardly skim the surface.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">Finally, I want to ask people to think about equality. The great defense of the religions without goddesses is that women hold honored roles that are separate from men, yet equal in standing. But who, or what, is the arbiter of equality in this discussion? Who decided what was equal? God the Father? God the Son? The prophets? The holy books written by the hands of men? The all-male priesthoods? It quickly becomes clear that “equal” is what men within these patriarchal institutions say is equal, and women who stray outside the boundaries of this carefully designed equality are usually punished, ostracized, or worse. If there were a Goddess to balance God, what would be different? What if there were many goddesses and many gods, many ideas and conceptions of equality to choose from? Would Jimmy Carter have then uttered those words?</span></div>SMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06654437344212232425noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2915921099025902838.post-47608175104509169092011-04-14T12:00:00.002-05:002011-04-14T12:01:25.048-05:00Is Hell Dead?"The unanswered questions aren't nearly as dangerous as the unquestioned answers." Damn right.<br />
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I approve of rocking the boat. Jesus did it. Martin Luther shook things up. Others have done it. Now its Rob Bell's turn. Kudos to him for it, too. To the open-minded, the ideas he suggests have merit with regard to how logic plays in God's love. To the staunchly fundamentalist, it is heresy to even SUGGEST that hell is not eternal. Logic trumps mistranslated bible verses every time. At least, for me it does. I finished his book and it was wonderful. I plan on doing a full review of it. I'm also passing it onto my quietly Universalist mother who still attends Catholic church weekly.<br />
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<div style="text-align: justify;"><strong><span style="color: #351c75; font-size: large;">Is Hell Dead?</span></strong></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">Time - 4/14/11 - by Jon Meacham</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">Source: </span><a href="http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2065080-2,00.html"><span style="color: #351c75;">http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2065080-2,00.html</span></a></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">As part of a series on peacemaking, in late 2007, Pastor Rob Bell's Mars Hill Bible Church put on an art exhibit about the search for peace in a broken world. It was just the kind of avant-garde project that had helped power Mars Hill's growth (the Michigan church attracts 7,000 people each Sunday) as a nontraditional congregation that emphasizes discussion rather than dogmatic teaching. An artist in the show had included a quotation from Mohandas Gandhi. Hardly a controversial touch, one would have thought. But one would have been wrong.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;"></span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">A visitor to the exhibit had stuck a note next to the Gandhi quotation: "Reality check: He's in hell." Bell was struck.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">Really? he recalls thinking.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">Gandhi's in hell?</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">He is?</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">We have confirmation of this?</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">Somebody knows this?</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">Without a doubt?</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">And that somebody decided to take on the responsibility of letting the rest of us know? </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">So begins Bell's controversial new best seller, Love Wins: A Book About Heaven, Hell, and the Fate of Every Person Who Ever Lived. Works by Evangelical Christian pastors tend to be pious or at least on theological message. The standard Christian view of salvation through the death and resurrection of Jesus of Nazareth is summed up in the Gospel of John, which promises "eternal life" to "whosoever believeth in Him." Traditionally, the key is the acknowledgment that Jesus is the Son of God, who, in the words of the ancient creed, "for us and for our salvation came down from heaven ... and was made man." In the Evangelical ethos, one either accepts this and goes to heaven or refuses and goes to hell. </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">Bell, a tall, 40-year-old son of a Michigan federal judge, begs to differ. He suggests that the redemptive work of Jesus may be universal — meaning that, as his book's subtitle puts it, "every person who ever lived" could have a place in heaven, whatever that turns out to be. Such a simple premise, but with Easter at hand, this slim, lively book has ignited a new holy war in Christian circles and beyond. When word of Love Wins reached the Internet, one conservative Evangelical pastor, John Piper, tweeted, "Farewell Rob Bell," unilaterally attempting to evict Bell from the Evangelical community. R. Albert Mohler Jr., president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, says Bell's book is "theologically disastrous. Any of us should be concerned when a matter of theological importance is played with in a subversive way." In North Carolina, a young pastor was fired by his church for endorsing the book. (From TIME's archives; "Does Heaven Exist.")</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">The traditionalist reaction is understandable, for Bell's arguments about heaven and hell raise doubts about the core of the Evangelical worldview, changing the common understanding of salvation so much that Christianity becomes more of an ethical habit of mind than a faith based on divine revelation. "When you adopt universalism and erase the distinction between the church and the world," says Mohler, "then you don't need the church, and you don't need Christ, and you don't need the cross. This is the tragedy of nonjudgmental mainline liberalism, and it's Rob Bell's tragedy in this book too."</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">Particularly galling to conservative Christian critics is that Love Wins is not an attack from outside the walls of the Evangelical city but a mutiny from within — a rebellion led by a charismatic, popular and savvy pastor with a following. Is Bell's Christianity — less judgmental, more fluid, open to questioning the most ancient of assumptions — on an inexorable rise? "I have long wondered if there is a massive shift coming in what it means to be a Christian," Bell says. "Something new is in the air."</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">Which is what has many traditional Evangelicals worried. Bell's book sheds light not only on enduring questions of theology and fate but also on a shift within American Christianity. More indie rock than "Rock of Ages," with its videos and comfort with irony (Bell sometimes seems an odd combination of Billy Graham and Conan O'Brien), his style of doctrine and worship is clearly playing a larger role in religious life, and the ferocity of the reaction suggests that he is a force to be reckoned with.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">Otherwise, why reckon with him at all? A similar work by a pastor from one of the declining mainline Protestant denominations might have merited a hostile blog post or two — bloggers, like preachers, always need material — but it is difficult to imagine that an Episcopal priest's eschatological musings would have provoked the volume of criticism directed at Bell, whose reach threatens prevailing Evangelical theology.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">Bell insists he is only raising the possibility that theological rigidity — and thus a faith of exclusion — is a dangerous thing. He believes in Jesus' atonement; he says he is just unclear on whether the redemption promised in Christian tradition is limited to those who meet the tests of the church. It is a case for living with mystery rather than demanding certitude. </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">From a traditionalist perspective, though, to take away hell is to leave the church without its most powerful sanction. If heaven, however defined, is everyone's ultimate destination in any event, then what's the incentive to confess Jesus as Lord in this life? If, in other words, Gandhi is in heaven, then why bother with accepting Christ? If you say the Bible doesn't really say what a lot of people have said it says, then where does that stop? If the verses about hell and judgment aren't literal, what about the ones on adultery, say, or homosexuality? Taken to their logical conclusions, such questions could undermine much of conservative Christianity. (See the Top 10 Religion Stories of 2010.) </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">What the Hell?</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">From the Apostle Paul to John Paul II, from Augustine to Calvin, Christians have debated atonement and judgment for nearly 2,000 years. Early in the 20th century, Harry Emerson Fosdick came to represent theological liberalism, arguing against the literal truth of the Bible and the existence of hell. It was time, progressives argued, for the faith to surrender its supernatural claims.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">Bell is more at home with this expansive liberal tradition than he is with the old-time believers of Inherit the Wind. He believes that Jesus, the Son of God, was sacrificed for the sins of humanity and that the prospect of a place of eternal torment seems irreconcilable with the God of love. Belief in Jesus, he says, should lead human beings to work for the good of this world. What comes next has to wait. "When we get to what happens when we die, we don't have any video footage," says Bell. "So let's at least be honest that we are speculating, because we are." He is quick to note, though, that his own speculation, while unconventional, is not unprecedented. "At the center of the Christian tradition since the first church," Bell writes, "have been a number who insist that history is not tragic, hell is not forever, and love, in the end, wins and all will be reconciled to God."</span><br />
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</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">It is also true that the Christian tradition since the first church has insisted that history is tragic for those who do not believe in Jesus; that hell is, for them, forever; and that love, in the end, will envelop those who profess Jesus as Lord, and they — and they alone — will be reconciled to God. Such views cannot be dismissed because they are inconvenient or uncomfortable: they are based on the same Bible that liberals use to make the opposite case. This is one reason religious debate can seem a wilderness of mirrors, an old CIA phrase describing the bewildering world of counterintelligence.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">Still, the dominant view of the righteous in heaven and the damned in hell owes more to the artistic legacy of the West, from Michelangelo to Dante to Blake, than it does to history or to unambiguous biblical teaching. Neither pagan nor Jewish tradition offered a truly equivalent vision of a place of eternal torment; the Greek and Roman underworlds tended to be morally neutral, as did much of the Hebraic tradition concerning Sheol, the realm of the dead.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">Things many Christian believers take for granted are more complicated than they seem. It was only when Jesus failed to return soon after the Passion and Resurrection appearances that the early church was compelled to make sense of its recollections of his teachings. Like the Bible — a document that often contradicts itself and from which one can construct sharply different arguments — theology is the product of human hands and hearts. What many believers in the 21st century accept as immutable doctrine was first formulated in the fog and confusion of the 1st century, a time when the followers of Jesus were baffled and overwhelmed by their experience of losing their Lord; many had expected their Messiah to be a Davidic military leader, not an atoning human sacrifice. </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">When Jesus spoke of the "kingdom of heaven," he was most likely referring not to a place apart from earth, one of clouds and harps and an eternity with your grandmother, but to what he elsewhere called the "kingdom of God," a world redeemed and renewed in ways beyond human imagination. To 1st century ears in ancient Judea, Jesus' talk of the kingdom was centered on the imminent arrival of a new order marked by the defeat of evil, the restoration of Israel and a general resurrection of the dead — all, in the words of the prayer he taught his disciples, "on earth." </span><br />
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</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">There is, however, no escaping the fact that Jesus speaks in the Bible of a hell for the "condemned." He sometimes uses the word Gehenna, which was a valley near Jerusalem associated with the sacrifice of children by fire to the Phoenician god Moloch; elsewhere in the New Testament, writers (especially Paul and John the Divine) tell of a fiery pit (Tartarus or Hades) in which the damned will spend eternity. "Depart from me, you cursed [ones], into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels," Jesus says in Matthew. In Mark he speaks of "the unquenchable fire." The Book of Revelation paints a vivid picture — in a fantastical, problematic work that John the Divine says he composed when he was "in the spirit on the Lord's day," a signal that this is not an Associated Press report — of the lake of fire and the dismissal of the damned from the presence of God to a place where "they will be tormented day and night for ever and ever."</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">And yet there is a contrary scriptural trend that suggests, as Jesus puts it, that the gates of hell shall not finally prevail, that God will wipe away every tear — not just the tears of Evangelical Christians but the tears of all. Bell puts much stock in references to the universal redemption of creation: in Matthew, Jesus speaks of the "renewal of all things"; in Acts, Peter says Jesus will "restore everything"; in Colossians, Paul writes that "God was pleased to ... reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven." </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">So is it heaven for Christians who say they are Christians and hell for everybody else? What about babies, or people who die without ever hearing the Gospel through no fault of their own? (As Bell puts it, "What if the missionary got a flat tire?") Who knows? Such tangles have consumed Christianity for millennia and likely will for millennia to come. </span><br />
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</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">What gives the debate over Bell new significance is that his message is part of an intriguing scholarly trend unfolding simultaneously with the cultural, generational and demographic shifts made manifest at Mars Hill. Best expressed, perhaps, in the work of N.T. Wright, the Anglican bishop of Durham, England (Bell is a Wright devotee), this school focuses on the meaning of the texts themselves, reading them anew and seeking, where appropriate, to ask whether an idea is truly rooted in the New Testament or is attributable to subsequent church tradition and theological dogma. </span><br />
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</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">For these new thinkers, heaven can mean different things. In some biblical contexts it is a synonym for God. In others it signifies life in the New Jerusalem, which, properly understood, is the reality that will result when God brings together the heavens and the earth. In yet others it seems to suggest moments of intense human communion and compassion that are, in theological terms, glimpses of the divine love that one might expect in the world to come. One thing heaven is not is an exclusive place removed from earth. This line of thinking has implications for the life of religious communities in our own time. If the earth is, in a way, to be our eternal home, then its care, and the care of all its creatures, takes on fresh urgency. </span><br />
<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">Bell's Journey </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">The easy narrative about Bell would be one of rebellion — that he is reacting to the strictures of a suffocating childhood by questioning long-standing dogma. The opposite is true. Bell's creed of conviction and doubt — and his comfort with ambiguity and paradox — comes from an upbringing in which he was immersed in faith but encouraged to ask questions. His father, a central figure in his life, is a federal judge appointed by President Reagan in 1987. (Rob still remembers the drive to Washington in the family Oldsmobile for the confirmation hearings.) "I remember him giving me C.S. Lewis in high school," Bell says. "My parents were both very intellectually honest, straightforward, and for them, faith meant that you were fully engaged." As they were raising their family, the Bells, in addition to regular churchgoing, created a rigorous ethos of devotion and debate at home. Dinner-table conversations were pointed; Lewis' novels and nonfiction were required reading.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">The roots of Love Wins can be partly traced to the deathbed of a man Rob Bell never met: his grandfather, a civil engineer in Michigan who died when Rob's father was 8. The Bells' was a very conservative Evangelical household. When the senior Bell died, there was to be no grief. "We weren't allowed to mourn, because the funeral of a Christian is supposed to be a celebration of the believer in heaven with Jesus right now," says Robert Bell Sr. "But if you're 8 years old and your dad — the breadwinner — just died, it feels different. Sad." </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">The story of how his dad, still a child, was to deal with death has stayed with Rob. "To weep, to shed any tears — that would be doubting the sovereignty of God," Rob says now, looking back. "That was the thing — 'They're all in heaven, so we're happy about that.' It doesn't matter how you are actually humanly responding to this moment ..." Bell pauses and chuckles ironically, a bit incredulous. "We're all just supposed to be thrilled."</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">Robby — his mother still calls him that — was emotionally precocious. "When he was around 10 years old, I detected that he had a great interest and concern for people," his father says. "There he'd be, riding along with me, with his little blond hair, going to see sick folks or friends who were having problems, and he would get back in the truck after a visit and begin to analyze them and their situations very acutely. He had a feel for people and how they felt from very early on."</span><br />
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</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">Rob was a twice-a-week churchgoer at the Baptist and nondenominational churches the family attended at different times — services on Sunday, youth group on Wednesday. He recalls a kind of quiet frustration even then. "I remember thinking, 'You know, if Jesus is who this guy standing up there says he is, this should be way more compelling.' This should have a bit more electricity. The knob should be way more to the right, you know?"</span><br />
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</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">Music, not the church, was his first consuming passion. (His wife Kristen claims he said he wanted to be a pastor when they first met early on at Wheaton College in Illinois. Bell is skeptical: "I swear to this day that that was a line.") He and some friends started a band when he was a sophomore. "I had always had creative energy but no outlet," he says. "I really discovered music, writing and playing, working with words and images and metaphors. You might say the music unleashed a monster." (See pictures of spiritual healing around the world.)</span><br />
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</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">The band became central to him. Then two things happened: the guitar player decided to go to seminary, and Bell came down with viral meningitis. "It took the wind out of our sails," he says. "I had no Plan B. I was a wreck. I was devastated, because our band was going to make it. We were going to live in a terrible little house and do terrible jobs at first, because that's what great bands do — they start out living in terrible little houses and doing terrible little jobs." His illness — "a freak brain infection" — changed his life, Bell says.</span><br />
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</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">At 21, Rob was teaching barefoot waterskiing at HoneyRock Camp, near Three Lakes, Wis., when he preached his first sermon. "I didn't know anything," he says. "I took off my Birkenstocks beforehand. I had this awareness that my life would never be the same again." The removal of the shoes is an interesting detail for Bell to remember. ("Do not come any closer," God says to Moses in the Book of Exodus. "Take off your sandals, for the place where you are standing is holy ground.") Bell says it was just intuitive, but the intuition suggests he had a sense of himself as a player in the unfolding drama of God in history. "Create things and share them," Bell says. "It all made sense. That moment is etched. I remember thinking distinctly, 'I could be terrible at this.' But I knew this would get me up in the morning. I went to Fuller that fall."</span><span style="color: #351c75;"><br />
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<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">Fuller Theological Seminary, in Pasadena, Calif., is an eclectic place, attracting 4,000 students from 70 countries and more than 100 denominations. "It's pretty hard to sit with Pentecostals and Holiness people and mainline Presbyterians and Anglicans and come away with a closed mind-set that draws firm boundaries about theology," says Fuller president Richard Mouw. </span><span style="color: #351c75;"><br />
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<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">After seminary, Bell's work moved in two directions. He was recovering the context of the New Testament while creating a series of popular videos on Christianity called Nooma, Greek for wind or spirit. He began to attract a following, and Mars Hill — named for the site in Athens where Paul preached the Christian gospel of resurrection to the pagan world — was founded in Grand Rapids, Mich., in 1999. "Whenever people wonder why a church is growing, they say, 'He's preaching the Bible.' Well, lots of people are preaching the Bible, and they don't have parking problems," says Bell. </span><span style="color: #351c75;"><br />
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<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">Mars Hill did have parking problems, and Bell's sudden popularity posed some risks for the young pastor. Pride and self-involvement are perennial issues for ministers, who, like politicians, grow accustomed to the sound of their own voices saying Important Things and to the deference of the flock. By the time Bell was 30, he was an Evangelical celebrity. (He had founded Mars Hill when he was 28.) He was referred to as a "rock star" in this magazine. "There was this giant spotlight on me," he says. "All of a sudden your words are parsed. I found myself — and I think this happens to a lot of people — wanting to shrink away from it. But I decided, Just own it. I'm very comfortable in a room with thousands of people. I do have this voice. What will I say?"</span><span style="color: #351c75;"><br />
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<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">And how will he say it? The history of Evangelism is in part the history of media and methods: Billy Sunday mastered the radio, Billy Graham television; now churches like Bell's are at work in the digital vineyards of downloads and social media. Demography is also working in Bell's favor. "He's trying to reach a generation that's more comfortable with mystery, with unsolved questions," says Mouw, noting that his own young grandchildren are growing up with Hindu and Muslim friends and classmates. "For me, Hindus and Muslims were the people we sent missionaries off to in places we called 'Arabia,'" Mouw says. "Now that diversity is part of the fabric of daily life. It makes a difference. My generation wanted truth — these are folks who want authenticity. The whole judgmentalism and harshness is something they want to avoid."</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">If Bell is right about hell, then why do people need ecclesiastical traditions at all? Why aren't the Salvation Army and the United Way sufficient institutions to enact a gospel of love, sparing us the talk of heaven and hellfire and damnation and all the rest of it? Why not close up the churches?</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">Bell knows the arguments and appreciates the frustrations. "I don't know anyone who hasn't said, 'Let's turn out the lights and say we gave it a shot,'" he says. "But you can't — I can't — get away from what this Jesus was, and is, saying to us. What the book tries to do is park itself right in the midst of the tension with a Jesus who offers an urgent and immediate call — 'Repent! Be transformed! Turn!' At the same time, I've got other sheep. There's a renewal of all things. There's water from the rock. People will come from the East and from the West. The scandal of the gospel is Jesus' radical, healing love for a world that's broken."</span><span style="color: #351c75;"><br />
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<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">Fair enough, but let's be honest: religion heals, but it also kills. Why support a supernatural belief system that, for instance, contributed to that minister in Florida's burning of a Koran, which led to the deaths of innocent U.N. workers in Afghanistan? </span><span style="color: #351c75;"><br />
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<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">"I think Jesus shares your critique," Bell replies. "We don't burn other people's books. I think Jesus is fairly pissed off about it as well."</span><span style="color: #351c75;"><br />
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<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">On Sunday, April 17, at Mars Hill, Bell will be joined by singer-songwriter Brie Stoner (who provided some of the music for his Nooma series) and will teach the first 13 verses of the third chapter of Revelation, which speaks of "the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God ... Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches." The precise meaning of the words is open to different interpretations. But this much is clear: Rob Bell has much to say, and many are listening.</span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>SMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06654437344212232425noreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2915921099025902838.post-41745549508052077022011-03-30T13:25:00.000-05:002011-03-30T13:25:25.625-05:00How Priests Accused Of Abuse Can Go Undetected (NPR)<div style="text-align: justify;"><div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;">And still...women are not allowed to be priests in the Church.</div><div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"><br />
</div><div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;">Step right up! Step right up! Marvel as Catholic males singlehandedly ensure the extinction of their religion! A faith in which a dastardly number figuratively and literally rape the Godly innocent out of sexual repression as directed by other males. Oh, and will also be defended by those same males.</div><div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"><br />
</div><div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;">Something's broken here.</div><div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"><br />
</div></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"><span style="font-size: large;">----------------------------------</span></div></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"><strong><span style="color: #20124d; font-size: large;">How Priests Accused Of Abuse Can Go Undetected</span></strong></div></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;"></span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"><span style="color: #20124d;">by Barbara Bradley Hagerty - NPR - Original Source</span></div></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;">March 29, 2011</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"><span style="color: #20124d;"><br />
</span></div></div><div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;">Listen to the story here: </span><object data="http://s2.wp.com/wp-content/plugins/audio-player/player.swf?m=1236370442g" height="24" id="audioplayer2" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="290"> <param name='movie' value='http://s2.wp.com/wp-content/plugins/audio-player/player.swf?m=1236370442g' /> <param name='FlashVars' value='&bg=0xf8f8f8&leftbg=0xeeeeee&lefticon=0x666666&rightbg=0xcccccc&rightbghover=0x999999&righticon=0x666666&righticonhover=0xffffff&text=0x666666&slider=0x666666&track=0xFFFFFF&border=0x666666&loader=0x9FFFB8&soundFile=http://www.famousafteridie.com/npr.mp3' /> <param name='quality' value='high' /> <param name='menu' value='false' /> <param name='bgcolor' value='#FFFFFF' /> <param name='wmode' value='opaque' /> </object></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;">A couple of years ago, the Philadelphia archdiocese heard about three priests who had allegedly raped two boys. It gave the priests' files to law enforcement, and a grand jury began to investigate. Then, the grand jury stumbled on a bombshell. A church employee testified that there were many other priests the panel should know about. "The grand jury found that a policy of zero tolerance was not actually in effect," says District Attorney Seth Williams, "and that there were many priests that had allegations made against them that were still in active ministry." There were 37 priests, according to a scathing report by the grand jury, which was released last month. Shaken by accusations that it was trying to keep abusers in ministry without telling parishes, the archdiocese moved quickly: It hired Gina Maisto Smith, a former prosecutor with a specialty in child sex abuse cases, to investigate further. The church soon put 21 clergy on administrative leave. Smith is unable to speak to the specific cases, but she says she has seen no evidence that church officials intentionally protected sexual predators. "I can say with clarity that I saw the archdiocese doing what it could do within the systems that it had and making the best decisions they could under the circumstances," she says. This raises the question: With all the safeguards the Roman Catholic Church put into place after the sex abuse scandal in 2002, how could this happen? If the archdiocese was following all the right procedures, how did these priests fall through the cracks? It turns out that there's a lot of play in the rules, says Terry McKiernan, president of </span><a href="http://bishopaccountability.org/"><span style="color: #20124d;">Bishop Accountability.org</span></a><span style="color: #20124d;">, a watchdog group. He says when an allegation comes in the church, the bishop doesn't have to pursue it very far. "A bishop may decide at a very early stage that an allegation is without merit," he says. "And if he does that, we never even get to the stage of a priest being removed." Archbishop of Philadelphia Cardinal Justin Rigali, who suspended the priests named in the grand jury's report, said he was "truly sorry" for harm done to victims and members of the community for "this great evil and crime." Matt Rourke/AP Archbishop of Philadelphia Cardinal Justin Rigali, who suspended the priests named in the grand jury's report, said he was "truly sorry" for harm done to victims and members of the community for "this great evil and crime." McKiernan says he believes that's what happened in Philadelphia. He notes that the archdiocese forwarded only seven of the 21 cases to its review board, a panel of lay people who are supposed to hear every allegation of sexual abuse and act to protect the victims. Often, he says, the review board "doesn't know all the facts" because it is the bishop or his senior officials who decide which cases to present to the board. Moreover, McKiernan and others say review boards sometimes "hold their punches" because they are handpicked by the bishop. In fact, the grand jury report excoriated the Philadelphia review board because it rejected every allegation it did hear as "unsubstantiated." Philadelphia may not be alone, says William Gavin, a former FBI agent who was hired by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops to audit each of the 195 Catholic dioceses each year and make sure they're preventing and reporting sex abuse cases. "It was an audit in quotes," he says. "I think it was more of a program review than anything else." Gavin says he could ask whether a diocese is conducting background checks on priests and employees — but he was not allowed to look at records that would indicate whether there were any allegations against a priest. "We didn't have the benefit of drilling down into personnel files to see what might be there," Gavin says. "They were off limits." Gavin and his auditors had to depend on a bishop's word about whether anyone had been accused of abuse. In addition, the questionnaire they use wouldn't have spotted the Philadelphia 21 anyway. It only asks about allegations within the past year, not older cases.Some believe the only way to get real answers is to have an outsider look at the priests' files. "The only reason we know about this situation in Philadelphia is because a grand jury report has been issued, and a grand jury process has been looking at this archdiocese for years," McKiernan says. "I think if we had that kind of aggressive law enforcement in other dioceses, the same problems would be revealed." McKiernan says they already have. In Cleveland, for example, the diocese said that 28 priests had been accused of abuse, but when a prosecutor looked at the files, the estimate went to 145. When the New Hampshire attorney general looked at the files of the diocese of Manchester, 27 new names emerged. And McKiernan has obtained an internal 2009 document from the Boston archdiocese that says there were 40 credibly accused priests whose names are still unknown to the public. Even critics say that most dioceses are trying to do their best at protecting victims and still giving due process to priests who may have been wrongly accused. And that can be a difficult line to walk. "Many people think the archdiocese doesn't get it," says Donna Farrell, a spokesperson for the archdiocese of Philadelphia. "We do. And the task, the job ahead of us, is to recognize where we've fallen short — and to let our actions speak to our resolve." The faithful will surely be watching — and so will prosecutors.</span></div>SMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06654437344212232425noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2915921099025902838.post-30858657785968852392011-03-28T13:30:00.000-05:002011-03-28T13:30:04.616-05:00The Good, The Bad, and the Beautiful<div style="text-align: justify;">I'm 3/4 through Rob Bell's book "Love Wins" and am at the point where I want to buy copies for some people I know who are on the fence about the whole "eternal hell thing". The sheer amount of questions raised is brilliant. It is more of a book of conceptual "what if's" and "if this, then that" scenarios that allows the reader to actually think through the *logic* of the Jesus story and bible teachings. And it is written in plain language so that one need not hold a theology degree to comprehend it.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;">Though he claims that he's not a Universalist, everything I'm reading so far points to that all consuming love of God that is characteristic of Christian Universalism. And may I add that it is a breath of fresh air that he actually cites the original Greek and Hebrew words in the Old and New Testament that are so pivotal in pointing to God's message that hell is not necessarily eternal at all (i.e. aion, Hades, Tartarus, Sheol, etc.)</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;">Speaking of the love of God, I need to share the following video which moved me to tears. I am utterly and completely humbled. </div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
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</div><div style="text-align: justify;">And on a personal note, I recently realized that I have been unfriended on Facebook by someone who I was good friends with in high school. I'm not entirely sure why but I can only speculate that it was over our differences in faith. She is a fundamentalist Christian and I am a Christian Universalist (Heretic). There was no dialogue over the reason so I can't say for sure, but if it is the reason, I'm...very disappointed. </div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;">I find that traditional Christians are much more difficult to have intelligent debate with about God saving everyone in the end. More often than not they are very insistent on their belief elitism, which means that they are not interested in listening or examining WHY they believe what they believe without feeling properly insulted at being questioned to begin with. I'm closer to having fellowship with unbelievers, at this point. My husband and best friends WHO ARE ALL WONDERFUL ATHEISTS understand and respectfully discuss with me the Love of God and my views on Universalism better than anyone else. Our discussions are intelligent and help raise further questions that assist my own personal examination of faith. They are the wetstone on which I sharpen my spirituality. MY ATHEISTS are also noticeably more kindhearted and moral than <em>many</em> of the self-proclaimed Christians I know. Bell touches upon a bit of this in his book, too. </div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;">There are some great truisms in Bell's book and when I have it in front of me (perhaps next time) I will do some quotin'.</div>SMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06654437344212232425noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2915921099025902838.post-33507663013294062832011-03-24T13:53:00.001-05:002011-03-24T13:55:15.450-05:00The Bell Curve: Pastor loses job after questioning hell's existence<div style="text-align: justify;">I'm calling this the "Bell curve". Once you learn about the Good News, you can't logically go back to the old way of thinking. This pastor, I guarantee you, will never go back to his old ways of thinking.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;">I think some "Christians" hope that they are among the elite that will make it to heaven, watching the billions of other poor misled saps burn in hell forever. Because it is nice to feel special...and chosen...and right. I think this wish is selfish, anti-Christian, immature at best, criminal at worst. I think if the crucifixion was carried out in order to save the ENTIRE world, then it was a huge failure - according to the Christian traditionalist belief. Also, if I believe in Christ (thus securing my salvation), then shouldn't I credit <em>myself</em> for my own salvation? Does Jesus ride by and slip the belief pill in the drinks of the chosen?</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;">For God so LOVED the world... right?</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;">I, for one, will take my chances in over-estimating the Love of God. Every single being is as loved by God as the next on this rock. Those who think otherwise are retributionists who distort the Gospel that Jesus taught.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;">Once my eyes were open to the all-encompassing love of God, I began to see others more as brethren and less as "those poor misled saps", thus my empathy and agape increased - God's love being the Great Equalizer. Not the Dividing Line.<br />
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Rob Bell's book "Love Wins" should be arriving at my house today or tomorrow. My spirit is stoked to read it and mull over the questions. The questions...those are more important than the answers.</div>-----------------------------------------------------------------<br />
<strong><span style="color: #20124d; font-size: large;">Pastor loses job after questioning hell's existence</span></strong><br />
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<strong><span style="color: #20124d;">New book is spurring debate over the traditional view of hell as a place of eternal torment for damned souls </span></strong><br />
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</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;">Source: AP 3/24/11 - </span><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42248810/ns/us_news-life/1#"><span style="color: #20124d;">Original Link</span></a></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;">DURHAM, N.C. — When Chad Holtz lost his old belief in hell, he also lost his job.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;"></span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
<span style="color: #20124d;">The pastor of a rural United Methodist church in North Carolina wrote a note on his Facebook page supporting a new book by Rob Bell, a prominent young evangelical pastor and critic of the traditional view of hell as a place of eternal torment for billions of damned souls.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;">Two days later, Holtz was told complaints from church members prompted his dismissal from Marrow's Chapel in Henderson.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;">"I think justice comes and judgment will happen, but I don't think that means an eternity of torment," Holtz said. "But I can understand why people in my church aren't ready to leave that behind. It's something I'm still grappling with myself."</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;">The debate over Bell's new book "Love Wins" has quickly spread across the evangelical precincts of the Internet, in part because of an eye-catching promotional video posted on YouTube.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;">Bell, the pastor of the 10,000-member Mars Hill Bible Church in Grand Rapids, Mich., lays out the premise of his book while the video cuts away to an artist's hand mixing oil paints and pastels and applying them to a blank canvas.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;">He describes going to a Christian art show where one of the pieces featured a quote by Mohandas Gandhi. Someone attached a note saying: "Reality check: He's in hell."</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
<span style="color: #20124d;">"Gandhi's in hell? He is? And someone knows this for sure?" Bell asks in the video.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;">In the book, Bell criticizes the belief that a select number of Christians will spend eternity in the bliss of heaven while everyone else is tormented forever in hell.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;">"This is misguided and toxic and ultimately subverts the contagious spread of Jesus' message of love, peace, forgiveness and joy that our world desperately needs to hear," he writes in the book.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;">For many traditional Christians, though, Bell's new book sounds a lot like the old theological position of universalism — a heresy for many churches, teaching that everyone, regardless of religious belief, will ultimately be saved by God. And that, they argue, dangerously misleads people about the reality of the Christian faith.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;">"I just felt like on every page he's trying to say 'It's OK,'" said Southern Baptist Seminary President Albert Mohler at a forum last week on Bell's book held at the Louisville institution. "And there's a sense in which we desperately want to say that. But the question becomes, on what basis can we say that?"</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;">Bell argues that hell has assumed an outsize importance in Christian teaching, considering the word itself only appears in the New Testament about 12 times, by his count.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;">"For a 1st-century Jewish rabbi, where you go when you die wasn't the most pressing question," Bell told The Associated Press. "The question was how can you enter into the shalom and peace of God right now, this day."</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;">Bell denies he's a universalist, and his exact beliefs on what happens to people after death are hard to pin down, but he argues that such speculation distracts people from an urgent point. In his telling, hell is something freely chosen that already exists on earth, in everything from war to abusive relationships.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;">The near-relish with which some Christians stress the torments of hell, Bell argues, keep many believers needlessly afraid of a loving God, and repel potential Christians who might otherwise be curious about the faith's teachings.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;">"The heart of the Christian story is that God is love," he said. "But when you hear the word 'Christian,' you don't necessarily think 'Oh, sure, those are the people who don't stop talking about God's love.' Some other things would come to mind."</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;"><strong>Ancient debate</strong></span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;">About the only thing everyone agrees on is that this is not a new debate in Christianity. It stretches to antiquity, when Christianity was a persecuted sect in the Roman Empire, and the third century theologian Origen developed a theory that contemporary critics charged would mean that everyone, even the devil himself, would ultimately be saved. Church leaders eventually condemned ideas they attributed to Origen, but he has had a lasting influence across the Roman Catholic, Orthodox and Protestant traditions.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;">Those traditions often disagree, even internally, on what awaits souls after death. The Catholic Church, which has a formal process for identifying souls in heaven through canonization, pointedly refrains from saying that anyone is without a doubt in hell. Protestants reject the concept of purgatory, in which sins can be atoned for after death, but disagree on other questions. The lack of consensus is enabled partly by ambiguities in the Bible.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;">Evangelical opposition to Bell is exemplified in a succinct tweet from prominent evangelical pastor John Piper: "Farewell, Rob Bell."</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;">Page Brooks, a professor at the New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary, thinks Bell errs in a conception of a loving God that leaves out the divine attributes of justice and holiness.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;">"It's love, but it's a just love," Brooks said. "God is love, but you have to understand you're a sinner and the only way to get around that is through Christ's sacrifice on the cross."</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;">Making his new belief public is both liberating and a little frightening for Holtz, even though his doubts about traditional doctrines on damnation began long before he heard about Rob Bell's book.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;">A married Navy veteran with five children, Holtz spent years trying to reconcile his belief that Jesus Christ's death on the cross redeemed the entire world with the idea that millions of people — including millions who had never even heard of Jesus — were suffering forever in hell.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;">"We do these somersaults to justify the monster god we believe in," he said. "But confronting my own sinfulness, that's when things started to topple for me. Am I really going to be saved just because I believe something, when all these good people in the world aren't?"</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;">Gray Southern, United Methodist district superintendent for the part of North Carolina that includes Henderson, declined to discuss Holtz's departure in detail, but said there was more to it than the online post about Rob Bell's book.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;">"That's between the church and him," Southern said.</span><span style="color: #20124d;">Church members had also been unhappy with Internet posts about subjects like gay marriage and the mix of religion and patriotism, Holtz said, and the hell post was probably the last straw. Holtz and his family plan to move back to Tennessee, where he'll start a job and maybe plant a church.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #20124d;">"So long as we believe there's a dividing point in eternity, we're going to think in terms of us and them," he said. "But when you believe God has saved everyone, the point is, you're saved. Live like it."</span></div></div></div>SMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06654437344212232425noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2915921099025902838.post-48711600645288931182011-03-21T14:25:00.002-05:002011-03-21T14:47:38.980-05:00Follow Up On Rob Bell, Heretic Pastor<div style="text-align: justify;">Bell claims that he is not a "Universalist" so I am intrigued to see what the controversy is. (Also, who cares if he wears black - since when are colors evil?) I admit I ordered the book and will write some thoughts on it as I read it.</div><br />
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<div style="text-align: justify;">Another interesting TIME interview with a Bishop - <strong><a href="http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1710844,00.html">Christians Wrong About Heaven, Says Bishop</a></strong></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;">It is a blessed thing that we live in an age where we don't get burned at the stake for such progressive thoughts : )</div>SMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06654437344212232425noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2915921099025902838.post-47779748627226179922011-03-10T10:16:00.001-06:002011-03-10T10:17:57.290-06:00"Versions of Hell" (Or, My Audio Documentary)<div style="text-align: justify;">I recently took an Audio Documentary class as part of my graduate work. I was able to choose the topic for my final audio piece and so I chose to interview people of differing beliefs to see whether the traditional ideas of hell still resonated with them. Narrating the piece, I talk to an atheist, a Muslim, a Jew, a Catholic, and a Christian Universalist with the underlying attempt at sound production. Here it is...all 10 minutes of it.</div><br />
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</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #666666;">More poetic? Before you know it Jesus will be delivering lines in Haiku format. This is dangerous stuff. And over what appears to be superfluous issues. </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #666666;">It is stated in this article: "Fifty scholars and translators, linguistics experts, theologians and five bishops spent 17 years on the project." </span><span style="color: #666666;">Yes, and no doubt they were hired by the church and discreetly told to make sure all is kept in line with the standard dogma. I would bet a year's salary on it.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #666666;">It is also stated: "We needed a new translation because English is a living language," Hello! The bible was not written in English. English may evolve (or devolve if you talk to any English teachers), but the message in the bible SHOULD NOT. Before you know it they will have versions of the bible written in leetspeak, OMG LOL.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #666666;">If anything, the bible should be ADDED to. I'm talking the lost gnostic gospels left out at the direction of a council of men. Put back in the Gospel of Thomas, the Gospel of Judas...and the Gospel of Mary, among others. </span><span style="color: #666666;">Ah, I dream. I dream. The Catholic world would be flipped upside down if it read into any sort of anti-centralized church talk (Gospel of Thomas) and feminism (Gospel of Mary) from these original texts. </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #666666;">Instead they'll hem and haw over the word "booty". </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #666666;">God help us all.</span></div><br />
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<span style="color: #660000; font-size: large;"><strong>Bishops boot 'booty' from revised Bible</strong></span><br />
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<span style="color: #660000;">By Cathy Lynn Grossman, USA TODAY - 3/2/11</span><br />
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<span style="color: #660000;">The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops has ordered up a new translation of the Bible, one it says is more accurate, more accessible and more poetic.</span><span style="color: #660000;"><br />
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<span style="color: #660000;">Now "booty," a word that sets off snickers in Sunday school, will be replaced by the "spoils" of war when the newest edition of the New American Bible, the English-language Catholic Bible, comes out on Ash Wednesday, March 9.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #660000;">"We needed a new translation because English is a living language," says retired auxiliary bishop of Milwaukee Richard Sklba, part of the review and editing team.</span><span style="color: #660000;"><br />
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<span style="color: #660000;">Fifty scholars and translators, linguistics experts, theologians and five bishops spent 17 years on the project. They were immersed in original manuscripts, the Dead Sea Scrolls and archaelogy findings unearthed since research behind the current text, published in 1970.</span><span style="color: #660000;"><br />
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<span style="color: #660000;">While Catholics may read from any of two dozen English translations, the New American Bible is the one owned by U.S. owned by U.S. bishops for prayer and study.</span>SMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06654437344212232425noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2915921099025902838.post-50847394304634424072011-03-01T15:28:00.002-06:002011-03-01T15:30:03.579-06:00Fellow Heretics In the News<div style="text-align: justify;">Good for Rob. As a pastor, it must be a risky move to declare that God is so much more loving than the human attributes S/he has been assigned for centuries. It turns peoples' worlds upside down: imagine, that - a God whose Love outweighs (or at the VERY least, balances) their Vengeance! (And here, many will exclaim 'rubbish'!)</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;">I recently interviewed a Catholic man who holds a PhD in theological ethics. He reminded me that 'heretic' simply means "other thinking" and the word is so much less scary than the Exorcist-like connotations it seems to portray. These days saying "heretic" is not coupled with an audible gasp. I think most people are...heretics in one way or another. I've even made myself a t-shirt that says "HERETIC" on the front and on the back is "The power of Christ compels me." (I also cite the exact passage from Proverbs).</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;">There are two things missing from this blog post that I wished they would have touched upon:</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;">1) Logic: Christians believe that Jesus died to save the world. If you have to save yourself by believing then the crucifixion exercise was a failure.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;">2) Theological Origins: I wish they would have stated that the early church (pre-5th century) WAS largely universalist: the church was MORE peaceful; a suffering servant with a focus on the LOVE of God. Enter the Latin translations of scripture, mix in the Council of Nicae and then the church transformed into a violent soldier of inquisition. The difference of a knife turning from a tool into a weapon.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;">I applaud this man. I think once your eyes are open to The Good News (like mine thankfully were). You see each person as a precious gift regardless of their beliefs. You don't pity and compete with whose beliefs are right or wrong. You don't feel the haughtiness that comes with traditional Christian self-righteousness. All are equal and all are loved.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;">And how that logic translates into "God mockery" is a mystery to me.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
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</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75; font-size: large;"><strong>Christian author's book sparks charges of heresy</strong></span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">By Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><a href="http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/01/what-is-a-heretic-exactly-in-the-evangelical-church/?hpt=C2"><span style="color: #351c75;">Original Source Link</span></a></div><span style="color: #351c75;"></span><br />
<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">Rob Bell, a pastor and author who has achieved rock star status in the Christian world, is preaching a false gospel, his critics say. And some of those critics are Christian rock stars in their own right. The pastor of Mars Hill Bible Church in Grand Rapids, Michigan, Bell has authored a book called Love Wins: A Book About Heaven, Hell, and the Fate of Every Person Who Ever Lived, which ignited a firestorm of controversy over the weekend, weeks before it arrives in bookstores. On Saturday, in a blog post on the popular Christian website The Gospel Coalition, Justin Taylor blasted Bell's new book, out March 29, for teaching "false doctrine": I’m glad that Rob Bell has the integrity to be lay his cards on the table about universalism. It seems that this is not just optimism about the fate of those who haven’t heard the Good News, but (as it seems from below) full-blown hell-is-empty-everyone-gets-saved universalism. Universalism, in its broadest terms, preaches that everyone goes to heaven and that there is no hell. Critics say it represents a break from traditional Christianity, which they say holds that heaven and hell are very real places. In most Christian circles, universalism is a dirty word. Taylor's post was quickly tweeted by several prominent pastors, including John Piper and Mark Driscoll, connected to the Gospel Coalition, a coalition of theologically conservative evangelical churches, and a full-blown theological controversy was on. By Monday, Taylor's response post had racked up a quarter million hits. Other bloggers, meanwhile, are calling Bell an outright heretic. Bell is not the first prominent Christian pastor to be recently accused of wading into theologically troubled waters. Bishop Carlton Pearson, once a mentee of famed Pentecostal televangelist Oral Roberts, has been run out of two churches and branded a heretic for preaching what he says is a gospel of inclusion with broad universalist themes. Last year, Brian McLaren – a popular Christian author and a former pastor - was accused of breaking with Christian orthodoxy and delving headlong into universalism in his book A New Kind of Christianity. But it's rare that theological arguments become top ten trending topics on Twitter, as Rob Bell did on Saturday. “To be honest, it was a pretty rough weekend,” Taylor said in a phone interview. The 34-year-old heads the editorial content for Crossway, a Christian publishing company in Wheaton, Illinois. Taylor he says his blog expresses his personal opinion not the opinion of the coalition. "We’re talking about the big things here, things that have been historically defined as orthodox, " he said. "I have a high degree of confidence in what God is saying and what we can understand." Though many things that separate Catholics, Protestants, and Orthodox Christians, “this isn’t one of them," Taylor said. "We’ve historically agreed on many things, the person of Christ, heaven and hell. This isn’t a peripheral academic debate. What Rob Bell is talking about gets to the heart of Christianity.” Taylor has not read Bell's forthcoming book in its entirety. His blog post was in response to the description released by Bell publisher HarperOne and a promotional video that features Bell. "Rob Bell hasn’t sinned against me personally,” Taylor said, which is why he did not go to Bell before making his comments public. Instead, Taylor said, Bell's book represents a clear example of false teaching. In the promotional video Bell refers to the nonviolent Indian independence leader Mahatma Gandhi, a Hindu, and asks, "Gandhi's in hell? He is?" "And someone knows this for sure?" Bell continues. "Will billions and billions of people burn forever in hell? And if that's the case how do you become one of the few? " The video follows a trend in Bell's career as a pastor: he has long asked tough theological questions and challenged traditional answers. The short promotional video raises lots of questions without offering definitive answers. "What we believe about heaven and hell is incredibly important because it exposes what we believe about who God likes," Bell says in it. " The good news is that love wins." Those lines raised eyebrows for Taylor and others. "It is not preaching the gospel as found in the New Testament," Taylor said. "The New Testament is pretty clear if someone preaches a false gospel… that we are to reject that and have nothing to do with them." For all his hipster leanings - including black rimmed glasses - Bell has a traditional pedigree. He went to Wheaton College, the Harvard of Christian schools, and later graduated from Fuller Theological Seminary with a Master of Divinity. But the Mars Hill Bible Church, which Bell founded, is not attached to any denomination. Were it attached to one - the Presbyterian or Catholic church, say - his book and video could raise eyebrows in the hierarchy and might lead to a church trial that could result in Bell's expulsion. "A larger denomination would take his credentials and excommunicate him like they did to me,” Bishop Pearson told CNN. By Sunday evening, Pearson was getting sent articles about the Bell flap. He said it reminded him of his days as a charismatic leader of a big church in the largest Pentecostal denomination. His questioning of hell from the pulpit led to his ouster. "What happened to me is happening to Rob Bell," Pearson said. "If you denounce hell, it's like you are denouncing God. You’re going to be called a heretic." “I thought my people loved me and would walk through the valley of the shadow of death with me, but they didn’t,” Pearson said. Bell's church did not respond to requests for an interview. His Twitter feed has been silent since he posted about writing a piece for CNN's Belief Blog a few weeks ago. His publicist at HarperOne said he would not be doing publicity until his book hits shelves.</span></div><span style="color: #351c75;"></span><br />
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<span style="color: #351c75;">"In one case in which an African sister was forced to have an abortion [by a priest], she died during the operation and her aggressor led the funeral mass."</span><br />
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<strong><span style="color: #351c75; font-size: large;">Vatican confirms report of sexual abuse and rape of nuns by priests in 23 countries</span></strong><br />
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<span style="color: #351c75;">By Frances Kennedy in Rome</span><br />
<span style="color: #351c75;">Independent.co.uk</span><br />
<span style="color: #351c75;">Wednesday, 21 March 2001 </span><br />
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<span style="color: #351c75;">The Catholic Church in Rome made the extraordinary admission yesterday that it is aware priests from at least 23 countries have been sexually abusing nuns. The Catholic Church in Rome made the extraordinary admission yesterday that it is aware priests from at least 23 countries have been sexually abusing nuns. Most of the abuse has occurred in Africa, where priests vowed to celibacy, who previously sought out prostitutes, have preyed on nuns to avoid contracting the Aids virus. Confidential Vatican reports obtained by the National Catholic Reporter, a weekly magazine in the US, have revealed that members of the Catholic clergy have been exploiting their financial and spiritual authority to gain sexual favours from nuns, particularly those from the Third World who are more likely to be culturally conditioned to be subservient to men. The reports, some of which are recent and some of which have been in circulation for at least seven years, said that such priests had demanded sex in exchange for favours, such as certification to work in a given diocese. In extreme instances, the priests had made nuns pregnant and then encouraged them to have abortions. The US article was based on five documents, which senior women from religious orders and priests have presented to the Vatican over the past decade. They describe a particularly bad situation in Africa. In a continent devastated by Aids, nuns, along with early adolescent girls, are perceived by some as safe sexual targets. The reports said that the church authorities had done little to tackle the problem. The Vatican reports cited countless cases of nuns forced to have sex with priests. Some were obliged to take the pill, others became pregnant and were encouraged to have abortions. In one case in which an African sister was forced to have an abortion, she died during the operation and her aggressor led the funeral mass. Another case involved 29 sisters from the same congregation who all became pregnant to priests in the diocese. The reports said that the cultures in some African countries made it almost impossible for a young woman to disobey an older man, especially one seen as spiritually superior. There were cases of novices who applied to their local priest or bishop for certificates of good Catholic practice that were required for them to pursue their vocation. In return they were made to have sex. Some incidents of sexual abuse allegedly took place almost within the Vatican walls. Certain unscrupulous clerics took advantage of young nuns who were having trouble finding accommodation, writing their essays and funding their theological studies. Forced to acknowledge the problem, the Vatican has tried to play down its gravity. In a statement issued yesterday the Pope's official spokesman, Joaquin Navarro Valls, said: "The problem is known and involves a restricted geographical area. Certain negative situations must not overshadow the often heroic faith of the overwhelming majority of religious, nuns and priests". One of the most comprehensive documents was compiled by Sister Maura O'Donohue, an Aids co-ordinator for Cafod, the London-based Catholic Fund for Overseas Development. She noted that religious sisters had been identified as "safe" targets for sexual activity. She quotes a case in 1991 of a community superior being approached by priests requesting that the nuns be made available to them for sexual favours. "When the superior refused the priests explained they would otherwise be obliged to go to the village to find women and might thus get Aids."Sister O'Donohue said her initial reaction to what she was told by her fellow religious "was one of shock and disbelief at the magnitude of the problem". While most of the abuse happened in African countries, Sister O'Donohue reported incidents in 23 countries including India, Ireland, Italy, the Philippines and the United States. She heard cases of priests encouraging the nuns to take the pill telling them it would prevent HIV. Others "actually encouraged abortion for the sisters" and Catholic hospitals and medical staff reported pressure from priests to carry out terminations for nuns and other young women. O'Donohue wrote in her report how a vicar in one African diocese had talked "quite openly" about sex, saying that "celibacy in the African context means a priest does not get married, but does not mean he does not have children." The head of the Vatican congregation for Religious Life, Cardinal Martinez Somalo, has set up a committee to look into the problem. But it seems to have done little beyond "awareness raising" among bishops. More recently, in 1998, Sister Marie McDonald, mother superior of the Missionaries of Our Lady of Africa, put together a paper entitled The Problem of the Sexual Buse of African Religious in Africa and Rome. She tabled the document to the Council of 16, made up of delegates of the international association of women's and men's religious communities and the Vatican office responsible for religious life. She noted that a contributing cause was the "conspiracy of silence". When she addressed bishops on the problem, many of them felt it was disloyal of the sisters to send reports. "However, the sisters claim they have done so time and time again. Sometimes they were not well received. In some instances they are blamed for what happened. Even when they are listened to sympathetically nothing much seems to be done" One of the most tragic elements that emerges is the fate of the victims. While the offending priests are usually moved or sent away for studies, the women are normally chased out of their religious orders, they are then either to scared to return to their families or are rejected by them. they often finished up as outcasts, or, in a cruel twist of irony, as prostitutes, making a meagre living from an act they had vowed never to do. One of the few religious in Rome willing to talk about the report was Father Giulio Albanese, of MISNA, the missionary news agency. "Missionaries are human beings, who are often living under immense psychological pressure in situations of war and ongoing violence. On one hand it's important to condemn this horror and it's important tell the truth, but we must not emphasise this at the expense of the work done by the majority, many of whom have laid down lives for witness" said Fr Albanese "The press only talks about missionaries when they are killed, kidnapped or are involved in something scandalous" he added. As the Vatican digests the unpalatable evidence of how their own priests are ruining the lives of their sisters, many Catholics hope a strong message may come from on high. With the American bishops, the Pope spoke in clear terms about paedophile priests, telling them this was a scourge that had to be faced. Some now hope that he may be equally courageous in denouncing an evil which has been covered by silence and shame for too long.</span>SMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06654437344212232425noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2915921099025902838.post-44937857589521348612011-02-09T11:28:00.000-06:002011-02-09T11:28:00.387-06:00PrideI am NOT a Catholic, but I AM a liberal woman who is against capital punishment.<br />
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This acquisition also makes me proud to be a DePaul Blue Demon.<br />
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</div><div style="text-align: justify;">The separation of church and state is in place for a very good reason. Unfortunately, this separation does not always extend and resonate from the mouths of those holding public office as is the case of Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley. </div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;">The statement is divisive, judgmental and exclusionary. <strong>It is, in fact, NOT what Jesus taught: </strong></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #134f5c;">"Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned, forgive, and ye shall be forgiven."</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #134f5c;">- Luke: 6:37</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #134f5c;">"For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another."</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #134f5c;">-1 John 3:11</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #134f5c;">"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free: there is neither male nor female: for we are all one in Christ."</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #134f5c;">-Galatians 3:28</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
I caution against subscribing to the elitism of the traditional Christian. One has to view everyone - Jew, Muslim, Hindu, atheist - everyone - as a child of God to feel that we are all a single family on this planet. </div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;">Also, U.S. politicians have a great knack for embarrassing themselves and everyone else.</div><br />
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<strong><span style="color: #351c75;">New Ala. gov: Just Christians are his family</span></strong><br />
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<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #351c75;">BIRMINGHAM, Ala. – Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley told a church crowd just moments into his new administration that those who have not accepted Jesus as their savior are not his brothers and sisters, shocking some critics who questioned Tuesday whether he can be fair to non-Christians. "Anybody here today who has not accepted Jesus Christ as their savior, I'm telling you, you're not my brother and you're not my sister, and I want to be your brother," Bentley said Monday, his inauguration day, according to The Birmingham News. The Anti-Defamation League on Tuesday called Bentley's remarks shocking."His comments are not only offensive, but also raise serious questions as to whether non-Christians can expect to receive equal treatment during his tenure as governor," said Bill Nigut, the ADL's regional director. Speaking at Dexter Avenue King Memorial Church after the official inaugural ceremony, Bentley told the crowd that he considered anyone who believed in Jesus to be his brothers and sisters regardless of color, but anyone who isn't a Christian doesn't have that same relationship to him. "If the Holy Spirit lives in you that makes you my brothers and sisters. Anyone who has not accepted Jesus, I want to be your brothers and sisters, too," Bentley said. After his speech, Bentley said he did not mean to insult anyone. Responding to questions about it, Bentley's office released a statement Tuesday saying he believes "he is the governor of all of Alabama." "The governor clearly stated that he will be the governor of all Alabamians — Democrat, Republican and Independent, young, old, black and white, rich and poor. As stated in his (inaugural) address, Gov. Bentley believes his job is to make everyone's lives better," the statement said. Ashfaq Taufique, president of the Birmingham Islamic Society, told The Birmingham News he wasn't sure how Bentley's remarks were intended. "Does it mean that those who according to him are not saved are less important than those who are saved?" Taufique said. "Does he want those of us who do not belong to the Christian faith to adopt his faith? That should be toned down. That's not what we need. If he means that, I hope he changes it. We don't want evangelical politicians. They can be whatever in their private life."The official with the Anti-Defamation League, which fights discrimination against Jewish people, said it sounded like Bentley was using the office of governor to advocate for Christian conversion. "If he does so, he is dancing dangerously close to a violation of the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, which forbids government from promoting the establishment of any religion," Nigut said.</span></div>SMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06654437344212232425noreply@blogger.com0